IntelAMDVia

Thank you for your responses. Unfortunately I'm not as comfortable using my primary account for responses here, so I will abstain from discussions of a political nature.

Was the removal from the front page algorithmic or a manual step by moderators?

The lack of transparency with the soft censorship is alarming, particularly given YC's financial conflict of interest.

Moderators: Why was this submission removed from the front page as soon as it started to gain traction?

The risk of nationalistic flame wars needs to be weighed against important discussion potential. But the submission is interesting enough even if the comments are disabled.

Is there any statistics on changes to Hacker News censorship since Sam Altman's China strategy was announced?

To be clear, the Confucius Institute is aimed at teaching students in its hosted nation certain propaganda. Products of the domestic China censored education system also use a lot of whataboutism.

The bigger problem is the fact this submission was censored from the front page as soon as it started to gain traction. Sam Altman's China strategy would appear to include censorship of Hacker News.

I found lots of links saying US does 'industrial espionage' but no one says this helps US companies.

> The U.S. Office of the Director of National Intelligence said it does collect information about economic and financial matters, and terrorist financing. "What we do not do, as we have said many times, is use our foreign intelligence capabilities to steal the trade secrets of foreign companies on behalf of - or give intelligence we collect to - U.S. companies to enhance their international competitiveness or increase their bottom line," it said in a statement

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/30/news/airbus-germany-nsa-spyi...

China has wide spread state sponsored stealing to help their companies. US does not seem to.

I have heard that was not state sponsored but people memorizing schematics. I am not sure though. I am interested in learning more.

China does innovate. But it is a nation sponsoring technology stealing on a huge scale. I don't think USA ever did that. I am happy to be proved wrong.

I have not read those books. It sounds the CIA pressuring third world nations to do things not in their economic interests. I don't support that.

That is bad but different to stealing technology using hidden back doors which China reportedly does. I have no evidence either way.

But pressuring third world nations to do things not in their economic interests is not that different to what the One Belt One Road program is doing using loans on uneconomic projects.

Both are bad but US does not seem to steal technology through hacking like China does. I am not sure why

The difference is China uses spyware to steal from anyone who has access to economically valuable information.

That's every engineer in the world.

US does not seem to steal for economic purposes at all.

Well at least not on the same scale.