Very neat
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Like publicly destroying ivory /poppy stockpiles while simultaneously holding puts/futures on correlating pharmaceutical financial instruments.
I do think subjectivity is both, it emerges gradually as an increasingly sophisticated inner model of the entities' outter world; as an innate loop of feedback between senses, abilities, and environment.
Beneficial behavior for systems/organisms dont require consciousness - most do better with less, looking at western nihilism...
Consciousness is just knowledge / conscientiousness with a loop, some garbage collection, and a generally meta-reflective process of self-directed improvement by learning from mistakes and using what works.
Mesa/super selective processes then test these individual instances en masse.
Entities dont need true understanding, just approximation.
Rain dances may not work, but they still increase reproductive odds.
Lamarck was right, but for the wrong reasons, which is apt.
The giraffe that stretches its neck convincingly (or wears high heels) and the giraffe that is naturally tall converge over generations as the female giraffes cannot differentiate between the two.
As for the medium that the oscillations permeate, it is all of them, and they all have an effect on each other.
The flooding of the Nile, the lunar affliction on our hormones, astronomical bombardment,pest blooms, the chances of bring born on a Saturday, agricultural invention, the distinctions in blood types, etc: are all seemingly unrelated things had the celestial mechanisms orchestrating their (near) periodic nature not been known - until modernity.
Yet, before modernity, these (near) cyclic phenomena were known about, and described, just 'mis'attributed as supernatural / God of the Gaps.
("Panem-synchronicity")
The forces are all substrates for complexity. The underlying force, as Hawking told us, was gravity.
>don't feed trolls
But making outrageous claims then replying with " why are you defending Iran " is the gimmick.
Its like a psyop meme mash-up of reddit arguments, ad infinitum
No.
Loss minimizing to a few problems will generalize into abstraction, and a few solutions will develop.
These systems with more generalizable resilency traits will encounter increasingly varied selective sieves.
Systems that survive this seive will exhibit increasingly sophisticated, generalizable solutions to prevent loss of needed dependent reactions/resources.
These solutions must exert influence to be effective; influencing the environment for its own benefit.
As systems influence their environment, delineation of "self" and "environment" becomes a fundamental barrier.
The system would prefer itself, or be outcompeted by a similar system that does.
This layer of semi-life like material would form between sunlight and the oscillating reaction, and eventually envelope it, minimizing surface tension by means of a spherical cell like structure.
Small stuff runs off of loss minimizing at a force level for its mechanistic affect; from covalent bonds to cellular ion transport, the path of lesser resistance is the fundamental forces.
As systems become more complex, the minimizing is less directly attributable to the fundamental forces and becomes more of a Byzantine dependency/feedback network.
This byzantine labyrinth of interactions is called biology.
The delineation of self, the ego.
At the highest levels, geopolitics. At the human level, mate suppression. Lowest level, energy conservation.
All loss minimizing
As Briggs–Rauscher reactions can eventually lead to Belousov–Zhabotinsky reactions, the system can maintain homeostasis with its environment (and continuing to oscillate) by varying reactants in a loss minimizing fashion.
This loss minimizing would be done during scarcity to limp towards an abundance phase.
This is the mechanism that hypothetical tidal pools batteries would had exhibited to continue between periods of sunlight/darkness/acidity that eventually gets stratified as a resilency trait.
Basically a dice with a bajillion sides is getting rolled along an increasingly slim poker table, house winning eventually.
Time only goes one way, protons dont decay, energy is radiated unto the cosmic background hiss, until homogeneity is reached as CMB, and entrophy reaches 1.
I dont know where it comes from, but I know the shape it makes as it rolls by.
Variation (chaos) comes from the tidal push/pull of all cumulative processes - all processes are nearly periodic (2nd law) and get slower - guaranteeing oscillator harmonics at intervals.
These intervals are astronomically convulted, but still promise a Fourier distribution of frequency: tidal effects ensure synchronization eventually, as all periods resonate eventually.
As systems are increasingly exposed to pendulums of positive and negative coherence, they will generalize for variance, and eventually for increasingly (fourier) selective filters of increasingly resiliente traits, that will generalize.
The system would eventually be increasingly resilient and eventually an awareness would develop.
Awareness of past periodic cycles would improve fitness (with or without consciousness) and eventually the mechanistic processes would be in the systems nature.
This is why we have pointless traditions, folk lore, collective unconscious artifacts, cyclical cataclysmic religions, the Fermi Paradox, the great filters...
Variation and selection are woven, but understanding how it all stems from gravity by means of nearly perioidic oscillators (spinning planets, tidal pools, celestial bodies) due to the conservation of angular momentum, due to the 3body problem.....that is what took a genius to reconcile
The great oxygenation was a time of near catyclismsic scarcity for most complex organisms, as resources scale to food/energy requirements imply the most complex organisms were the most dependent on the environment, and were most impacted by changes.
Inversely, oxygenation was our most crucial abundancy pre cursor, as it provides a large substrate chemically for life to exhibit
Its is the core of any and all learning/exellency; exposure to chaotic perturbations allow selection of solutions that are then generalized to further, ever more straining problems; producing increasingly applicable solutions.
This is the core of evolution, and is actually derivable from just a single rule.
Just makes you all look like cowardly cattle, which they also refer to us as.
But yeah, joke about it.
-99% of comments since 2020
Not that it matters; we sleep and wake up, no one freaks out daily that they were unconscious for hours.
No reason to suspect waking up in 3030 after being unfrozen or in 6045 after being cybernetically reanimated would be any more disconcerting physiologically than an extended coma patients experience.
Your continuity is just as illusionous as your free will.
Next year it will be cannon that we always knew they were related.
Please read hn rules.
Homo genus is 2 million years old.
Repeating "muh authorities" isnt an argument.
Your willful axiomatic dogmatism isnt science.
Cave paintings dont depict agriculture. They depicted hunting and agrarian nomadic lifestyles
Irl noop and forced execution control flow to effectively return true.
B e a utiful