JoeSamoa

The same way that undesireable actions are handled in the WTO.

Look all I'm talking about doing is creating a world climate organization rater than a world trade organization and you're trying to tell me I'm suggesting authoritarianism. It's ludicrous.

China is especially not the west. They would typically be the East.

Mostly I meant developed vs undeveloped. Those are Eastern countries who are still developing. I think the dichotomy fits just fine still.

Neat island, but I can assure you South Americans and Africans would have no issues invading it by boat.

It would be a decent stronghold though for awhile I bet, but in the end desperation would lead to its discovery and pillaging.

Have you ever played the game rust? It's a survival game where the world you spawn in is pretty large. It always amazes me how similar people think in survival games. No good spot ever goes undiscovered.

If the islands were not mapped that would be your best bet.

Regulation doesn't mean authoritarianism.

Is the WTO authoritarianism? Is a speed limit authoritarianism?

NO. Those are just regulations, because as systems get more complex you need more rules to manage the scale.

Unwarranted surveillance, separating children from parents, the dismantling of workers rights, mobility, job security, and perks, politicians who hardly represent voters, state surveillance of political opponents, gerrymandering, efforts to silence journalists and whistle blowers, citizens united, left and right populism and extremism, alt-facts/fake news, cambridge analytica, the rise of China and it's management of Hong Kong, forced arbitration, facial recognition and various other tracking methods being refined by companies like palantir, those Boston dynamic dogs and atlas, drone usage and advances, fear mongering, rigged elections, demonizing opposition, increase in use of executive orders instead of following the democratic process, defunding of regulatory agencies like EPA, Tax breaks for the elite, loosening of banking regulations...

I could probably go on, but this should be enough data points to build a clear picture of the things producing a perfect storm capable of outdoing even Hitler.

Yep. This is the point I've been trying to make to many Americans.

This issue goes beyond our consumption. The entire worlds growth has to be regulated at this point to ensure stability.

That means Western countries need to accept a lower standard of living or find ways to become vastly more efficient so that developing nations can catch up and we can find an equilibrium in regards to standard of living globally.

I've wondered this as well.

Any place least affected will be most sought after by the masses of migrants. There is no safe place.

None of them have been alive to see a revolution.

I like this idea.

Thats the spirit.

You realize the extensions can track you too?

Honestly I wish people cared this much. Most people just roll over and deal with the ad or pay for premium so they don't have to see ads.

It should be clear at this point the www is a not what it was. Honestly the ads could still be 3rd party, but they would just be stored on the same web server as the site. Then the 3rd party would just collect the info from the site instead of directly through the user.

I'm ready to move on. In my eyes we already lost the www.

It's a form of duress.

Then I'd ask those same people to hand over their credentials to all their accounts since their data, privacy, and property, seem to matter little to them.

Maybe I wouldn't?

Have you ever stopped to think that there is no such thing as free?

Correct. Representation is the difference here.

Although these days the lines seems to be blurring into democracy since corporations are getting larger horizontally and vertically.

Except life is now and cancer sucks. Also assumes you were able to achieve a high paying career and not some dead end job that only pays enough to keep you alive.

Sounds fun.

Thank you for defending this point so rigorously. I agree.

Alot more is going to happen without us realizing it unless we take action fast...

https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/5/1/316

100% My dog cuddles me for 15 min before bed every night and I can feel the relaxation swell over me almost instantaneously. Must be kind of like oxytocin.

This. Felt incomplete to me also for these reasons.

This, but honestly I think to avoid any chance of something like prions we should just avoid genetically altered pigs for edible consumption altogether and stick to naturally bred pigs.

Good observation.

This is something I have wondered myself.

Would love if someone would chime in on the reality here.

First off the EPA would get proper funding: https://www.edf.org/deep-epa-cuts-put-public-health-risk

And would admit clearly that it is something we can change and start promoting policies that help move society in the right direction. Instead they are censoring themselves and the organization is all but toothless.

https://time.com/5075265/epa-website-climate-change-censorsh...

So yea things would be different.

Holy shit I never thought about it like this.

Dose that city still exist? Would love that experience...