KoolKat23

Thanks for this suggestion, it's actually been my experience too.

Anthropic I feel will be alright. They have their niche, it's good and people actually do pay for their services. Why do people still use salesforce when there's other free CRM's. They also haven't from what I can tell scaled for some imaginary future growth.

OpenAI I'm sorry to say are all over the place. They're good at what they do, but they try to do too much and need near ponzi style growth to sustain their business model.

Exactly this it serves little purpose.

You're going to need to spend crazy compute just compiling and obtaining training data. And until it's oneshotting absolutely everything. You're going to be asking it what it's it doing and then it'll be "uncompiling" it's code, I can't see this being more efficient than the other way compiling.

I suspect the actual benefit would be more in virtualised interfaces such as Genie 3, skipping this step altogether. Where it's just manipulating pixels and the pixels change based on the underlying statistical model output rather than old school computation.

Outside of code, Gemini is really really good.

I have a relatively consistent task that it completed with new information on weekdays at the edge of its intelligence. Interestingly 3.0 flash was good when it came out, took a nose dive a month back and is now excellent, I actually can't fault it it's so good.

It's performance in antigravity has also actually improved since launch day where it was giving non-stop typescript errors (not sure if that was antigravity itself).

I can't stand a model over-explaining, needless fluff and wasting tokens. I asked the question so I know the context.

There's definitely some way of telling, Enterprises can block sign in with no recent updates in Microsoft authenticator or whatever app they use.

Honestly I think no measure is and should be perfect. It's completely disproportionate. If there's a will there's a way.

I have not once seen a proposal actually contain zero knowledge proof. This isn't something exotic or difficult. It is clear to me there is ulterior motives, and perhaps a few well meaning folks have been co-opted.

Yes, but not cutthroat competition that implies unsustainable, detrimental competition that kills off the industry.

That would imply there's still capacity here on earth for this type of traffic.

Latency means this still makes no sense to me. Perhaps some batch background processing job such as research or something but that's stretching.

Can't tell if you're disingenuously joking or ignorantly joking. A 17 year old is technically a child.

I get the feeling you don't want to hear it, but there is despicable thing called child soldiers.

Yeah I still don't understand this argument. The only cars I ever hear of (in Europe) with issues are German or French cars (not all brands). (Don't see many American brands here).

Certain tech is cheap. I wouldn't classify that as non-basic. Chuck a few screens in the cabin is cheap. Matrix LED headlights less so.

Well the software for one (excluding Tesla), it's faster, more advanced, more creative (probably more gimmicks but still). Domestically (in China) they also offer much higher charging wattage. But yes quality is at parity and they're cheaper.

Reasoning density.

I have a specific use case (financial analysis), that is at the edge of what is possible with this models (accuracy wise).

Gemini 2 was the beginning, you could see this technology could be helpful in this specific analysis but plenty of errors (not unlike a junior analyst). Gemini 2.5 flash was great actually useable, errors made were consistent.

This is where it gets interesting, I could add additional points to my system prompt, yes it would fix those errors but it would degrade the answer elsewhere, often it wouldn't be incorrect but merely much simpler less nuanced and less clever.

This is where multi-agents helped it actually meant the prompt can be broken down so that answers remain "clever". There is a big con to this, it is slow, slow to the point that I chose to stick with a single prompt (the request didn't work well operating in parallel as the other prompt surfaced factors for it to consider).

However Gemini 3 flash is now smart enough that I'd now consider my financial analysis solved. All with one prompt.

This is very cool and very overkill.

I still feel it's a little bit hyperbolic and slightly over-reactive, but I see your point.

My point is saying if it's so complex you have to get a lawyer involved, how do you expect your LLM&system to cover all its own shortcomings.

I'd bet if you put that prompt into grok it'd be blocked judging by that Reddit link you sent. These folks are jailbreaking nearly asking to modify using neutral terms like clothing and images that grok doesn't have the skill to judge.

Again words in my mouth. I'm not justifying that and nowhere does it say that. I could be very impolite to you right now trying to slander me like that.

I said I don't understand the fuss because there are guardrails, action taken and technical limitations.

THAT is my motive. The end of story. I do not need to parrot outrage because everyone else is, "you're either with us or against us" bullshit. I'm here for a rational discussion.

Again read what I've said. Technical limitations. You wrote that long ass explanation interspersed with ambiguities like consulting lawyers in borderline cases and then you expect an LLM to handle this.

Yes ML classification is good now but not foolproof. Hence we go back to the first point, processes to deal with this when x's existing guardrails fail, as x.com has done, delete, suspend, report.

My fear (only because you mention it, I didn't mention it above, I only said I don't get the fuss above) it seems should be that people are losing touch in this grok thing, their arguments are no longer grounded in truth or rational thought, almost a rabid witch hunt.

You're the one making the logical fallacies and reacting emotionally. Read what I have said first please.

That is a different grok to the one publishing images and discussed in the article. Your link clearly states they are being moderated in the comments and all comments are discussing adults only. The links comments also imply that these folks are jailbreaking nearly, because of guardrails that exist too.

As I say read what I said, please don't put words in my mouth. The GPT models wouldn't know what is sexualised. I said there is a line at some point. Non-sexualized bikinis are sold everywhere, do you not use the internet to buy clothes?

Your immediate dismissive reaction indicates you are not giving what I'm saying any thought. This is what puritanical thought often looks like. The discourse is so poisoned people can't stop, look at the facts and think rationally.

I don't know, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills with this whole saga. Perhaps I havent seen the full story.

The fact of the matter is they do have a policy and they have removed it, suspended accounts and perhaps even taken it further. As would be the case on other platforms.

As far as I understand there is no nudity generated by grok.

Should public gpt models be prevented from generating detestable things, yes I can see the case for that.

I won't argue there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable, but please remember people perv over less (Rule 34). Are bikinis now taboo attire? What next, ankles, elbows, the entire human body?(Just like the Taliban). (Edit: I'm mentioning this paragraph for my below point.)

GPT's are not clever enough to make the distinction by the way either, so there's an unrealistic technical challenge here.

I suspect the this saga blowing out of proportion is purely "eLoN BAd".

It's just insane.

To throw away an iconic name like "Microsoft Office" boggles the mind.

That brand must've been worth a fortune. Strategically it also emboldens competitors, "they're all random products anyway, never heard of any of them, may as well try this or that".

They're wrong on multiple fronts, they're regressive. The poor bear the brunt of them.

Despite the bad press, a well run government highway is much cheaper, generally 30% or more of that toll goes directly to maintaining the system and it's profits, there's more efficient funding methods out there.

They're natural monopolies, they fill up with traffic regardless of how much you rip people off.

It's well known ol' Don Quixote doesn't like windmills, I mean wind turbines.

To be fair, we all know googles terms are ambiguous as hell. It would not be a big surprise nor an outright lie if they did use it.

Its different if they proclaimed outright they won't use it and then do.

Not that any of this is right, it wouldn't be a true betrayal.

On a related note, these terms to me are a great example of success for EU GDPR regulations, and regulations on corporates in general. It's clear as day, additional protections are afforded to EU residents in these terms purely due to the law.

This new model is absurdly quick on my phone and for launch day, wonder if it's additional capacity/lower demand or if this is what we can expect going forward.

On a related note, why would you want to break down your tasks to that level surely it should be smart enough to do some of that without you asking and you can just state your end goal.

Token usage also needs to be factored in specifically when thinking is enabled, these newer models find more difficult problems easier and use less tokens to solve.