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LitFan··on Bee-brained
It's a stretch to say that religion 'authorizes' us to mistreat/eat animals.

Animals eat other animals. We're animals, so we do that, too.

If anything, religions largely promote treating animals properly, because they're some form of gods' creatures.

LitFan··on Anti-vaccination stronghold hit with worst chickenpox outbreak in decades
Paraphrased: Herd immunity created by most people getting the chicken pox vaccine would make it less likely for people who did not get the vaccine to get chicken pox early in life, leaving them susceptible to contracting it later in life.

It sounds like those people should also get vaccinated, rather than not requiring anyone to be vaccinated.

LitFan··on Show HN: FreePizza.io – free pizza for usergroups, meetups, hackathons, talks
Even with real ingredients, a pizza is primarily flour, tomato, and cheese. Add some cured meats, and maybe some vegetables. It is nutritionally lacking, ergo - junk food.
LitFan··on Why do all websites look the same?
Best was in quotes because it's subjective. If the people in charge of designing a product perceive a similar product's design to be the best, then they will copy it.

Similarly, if the people paying the people in charge of designing a product perceive a similar product's design to be the best, then they will pay those people to copy it.

LitFan··on Why do all websites look the same?
All websites looking "the same" is effectively evolution at work. Many website designs and layouts have been tried, and the "best" of them have stuck around.

This can be seen in any product (cars, smartphones, food - the list goes on).

From time to time there are designs that don't look like others, and those may or may not be met with approval. If they're liked, those designs (or aspects of them) get blended with the standard.

LitFan··on Plane drops to 928 feet after autopilot set to 0 altitude
It's not what you meant, but "moments"[0] is pretty a pretty long time in this circumstance.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_(time)

LitFan··on In Tuesday's Vote, California Opts for Year-Round Daylight Saving
Not to mention teachers not wanting to work until 5:30 every day. Unfortunately, school starts at the time it does only to the benefit of adults, and the detriment of students.
LitFan··on China can apparently now identify citizens based on the way they walk
For others that aren't aware, "The Farm" refers to a CIA training facility at Camp Peary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Peary

LitFan··on Ads just work, no matter what you think
Thank you for the insight - I haven't read Blink, I've just come across this online and in discussions with friends.

The author of the article I linked paints the anecdote you've cited as Gladwell's "research". I had thought it was more exhaustive than that.

LitFan··on Millennial Men Leave Perplexing Hole in Hot U.S. Job Market
> Weary of long days earning minimum wage, he quit his job in a pizzeria in June.

Given these are the types of jobs these men are leaving, and assuming these are the types of jobs still available, it's these jobs.

The market is hot because jobs are available. It's not hot because good jobs are available.

LitFan··on Ads just work, no matter what you think
>The most famous illustration of that is the Pepsi paradox: in blind tastings, Pepsi is quasi-systematically preferred, but Coke continues to be the absolute bestseller. It’s the triumph of branding over taste, as the mere presence of brand labels leads people to switch their opinion.

This isn't entirely due to branding. Pepsi is preferred during sip tests but Coke is preferred when drinking a whole can[0].

[0]https://www.wideopeneats.com/difference-coke-pepsi/ *This article does refer to the branding "New coke" and "Coca Cola Classic", but the branding was to ensure adoption for an actual change to the drink they had already made.

LitFan··on Humanity has wiped out 60% of animals since 1970, major report finds
Going vegetarian is not "easy". It requires ingredients that are not as highly available, and vegetarian meals that satisfy a person's nutrition requirements typically take longer to make. It also cuts down on the variety in the food you can eat, and in most cases, takes a lot of willpower.

Of course it would have a huge impact - you're radically changing the diets of a majority of the population of the planet.

LitFan··on My Parents Give Me $28k a Year
> Firstly, "linked to sugar" is not "squarely caused by sugar".

Correct - the same goes for "Linked to drugs" and "squarely caused by drugs".

> that alone shows sugar to be far safer

Sugar is safer than cocaine, but that does not make it safe. I shouldn't have said the only difference - sorry.

> But never mind, let's look at, oh, the lethal dose (LD50) info

This is too narrowly focused - the LD50 only refers to the immediate effects of a substance, not the long lasting effects. I'd argue that long lasting effects are more dangerous as they're less apparent.

> Plus there is copious sugar in your bloodstream without which you'd be in hypoglycemic shock leading to death.

Yes, our bodies need sugar and create it from the food we eat. I was talking about the food we call sugar ("Sugar is the generic name for sweet-tasting, soluble carbohydrates, many of which are used in food.)

I should use "added sugar" or "refined sugar".

LitFan··on Kids’ Apps Are Crammed With Ads
You're correct, that definition is more appropriate.

Companies abuse (misuse) their power over consumers. Consumers are abused by companies through marketing.

I wholly agree with my sibling commenter that it is cruel for companies to market to us with the intent of separating us from our money.

LitFan··on Kids’ Apps Are Crammed With Ads
Your coworker buying a BMW is not abuse, but BMW causing you to want to buy one through their marketing is.

Selling a product is passive. Advertising that product is active. A company selling a product is not abuse. However, stores serve as advertisements for the products they sell. I would say that such stores - and the salespeople within them - are abusive.

> my kids only activate ads accidentally and then have to come to me to figure out how to get out of the trap that the ad has led them into, since closing the ad can be tricky.

Advertising aside, would you agree imposing a difficult to navigate user interface is abusive? I would.

LitFan··on Kids’ Apps Are Crammed With Ads
They are a waste of time, but they're everywhere. If your kids don't understand the basics of ads, or advertisers' motives, they'll struggle to respond to ads in a healthy way.
LitFan··on Kids’ Apps Are Crammed With Ads
> Exposure will do little more than desensitize them to ads and instead let their subconscious absorb the message.

Good point. I guess helpings kids to learn to think objectively in general is the key to helping them think objectively about the things we shield them from when they're young.

LitFan··on Kids’ Apps Are Crammed With Ads
> I hope that this clear separation between "no ads/home" and "ads/outside" is sufficient to cross a threshold in their mind which makes them thinks "Ads are not meant to be ubiquitous".

This helps me understand. You've convinced me of your approach - thank you. :)

LitFan··on Kids’ Apps Are Crammed With Ads
This comment is only my own opinion:

I believe you're teaching your children to be children instead of teaching them to be people. You're creating an advertisement free bubble for them to live in - once they're living on their own, they'll lack experience dealing with exposure to advertisement.

You see benefit in the teaching opportunities in the times your kids are exposed. I'd argue you would have more teaching opportunities if they were exposed more often. The sooner they see it's a part of every day life, the sooner they'll be equipped to handle it on their own.

That said, maybe this is hypocritical. I stop my daughter from doing things I know will harm her (using knives, seeing scary things), maybe I'm just not being cautious enough about what I shield her from.

LitFan··on Kids’ Apps Are Crammed With Ads
The definition of abuse: use (something) to bad effect or for a bad purpose; misuse.

Advertising exists to get consumers to spend their money on a product they don't need (or a particular brand of a product they do need).

The argument is that if they're inspiring you to give them your money for something you don't need (in most cases, tricking you into thinking you do need it) that's abuse.

LitFan··on My Parents Give Me $28k a Year
Most people think heroin isn't like candy.

The physical dependence is the same, and there are 4 times as many deaths that can be linked to sugar as drugs per year in the US.

The only difference is that heroin is illegal and costs a lot more than candy.

LitFan··on Chances DNA can be used to find your family? Sixty percent and rising
> they're not going to tell anybody

The angst they save their family still exists - they'll keep it to themselves. Even without sharing, that's bound to have some social implications.

LitFan··on That sign telling you how fast you’re driving may be capturing license plates
Some anecdata for this: There is one intersection on my drive into work with a red light camera. There is also one on the way home.

Without fail, whenever I approach one of those intersections on a green light where the pedestrian signal has changed to a flashing hand, at least one car slows down.

I have seen people stop at a green light where the pedestrian signal is a solid hand (meaning the light will change to yellow soon).

Acting in an unexpected way is a recipe for an accident.

LitFan··on 'Siri I'm getting pulled over': New shortcut can automatically record the police
I think this comment and the parent nailed it. The reasons for the differences are that in the US:

- The law/lawmakers and the public have differing views on what should be illegal

- The police are incentivized to find crimes, and the public is aware of this

LitFan··on 'Siri I'm getting pulled over': New shortcut can automatically record the police
Americans hate to pay taxes. The "law abiding citizens" don't have to worry about these extra fines, as long as they go out of their way to avoid the police. Then they can convince themselves that it's only the "bad guys" that are being fined, and as a result they deserve the treatment.
LitFan··on Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
What about arms dealers that sell weapons to these people?
LitFan··on WhatsApp Cofounder Brian Acton on Why He Left $850M Behind
I would hope that someone worth 3.6 billion would have a much easier time walking away from 850 million than someone worth 1 million would walking away from 200 thousand.

To violate one's moral code should surely be worth more than 200k, if they're already taken care of financially.

LitFan··on Tencent's AI plays StarCraft II, and wins over 90 percent of the time
> LoL on the other hand has about 500 champions (give or take)

LoL has 141 champions. Still significantly higher than Dota's 116.

A common note I hear when people discuss open AI playing dota is that it uses pre-made matchups, which reduces the number of matchups considerably.

Would it be that difficult to have the AI play the picking stage? Compared to the complexity of the decisions you have to make during the game, the picks are straightforward - especially if you have performance data on matchups.

The number of practice games the AI would have to play to learn to handle all the heroes goes up drastically, but that's only a matter of time.

LitFan··on I worked in an Amazon warehouse. Bernie Sanders is right to target them
Companies will not pay a wage that supports a reasonable standard of living for unskilled work. It would be less expensive to automate those jobs away than to pay those people 17 dollars per hour (based on half of the median household income in canada for 2015 https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/170913/dq170...).

I have a different perspective on this:

Countries want people to have children - it's good for the country. However, people expect companies to support people's lifestyles (in exchange for work). With local companies, it makes sense for the company to want to support the people working there - they at least have a stake. Large companies are often global entities. As a result, they may have no stake in the people in certain countries - or even any countries.

Shouldn't be the country's people (through paid taxes) and government (through support programs) support the lifestyles of the people?

LitFan··on I worked in an Amazon warehouse. Bernie Sanders is right to target them
You and your sibling comment are right - it's too harsh to say that society has decided they're okay with this treatment. However, I believe people need to be more aware of the decisions they make daily.

Rather than passively supporting Amazon because it's the most convenient or cheapest option, investigate why they might be able to offer their service at a rate other companies in their space can't.

I don't believe it's right to assume or enforce that companies disclose all of their business practices to their customers. Those practices should be audited by a regulatory body to assess whether they're humane or ethical.

> I have a lot of confidence that many of Amazon's labor practices would be banned if they were put up for a straight-up national referendum.

On this, I'm sure you're right. Which leads me to an interesting question:

Assuming: 1) There are companies engaging in activity the majority of their potential customers would find immoral 2) One of these companies is able to provide a superior product or service at a reduced rate to their competitors 3) Information about these immoral practices is available to those customers (though they have to seek it out)

Why do people still support the company? Shouldn't people suspect something is fishy with that company's offering?

My assumption to begin with is that consumers were turning a blind eye in order to keep using the service. That may not be the case.

Maybe it's that they don't have the time or capacity to evaluate this for themselves (especially for the number of businesses we all depend on daily). Maybe it's a tragedy of the commons.

How can we fix this?

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