Nasrudith

I thought the whole point about Dune was that even the 'good guys' are really pretty messed up people at best and that you should absolutely not be taking moral advice from any of them. See every idiot AI-hater accidentally endorsing slavery by a bunch of idiot psychotics by saying "We need a Butlerian Jihad".

Because they actually use capitalization and punctuation?

That canard about a vast conspiracy to explain why people don't agree with you? It sounds exactly like conservatives blaming the liberal schools for in essence the same thing, not agreeing with them.

Schools must be quite busy and schizophrenic what with the completely ideologically inconsistent indoctrination they are apparently doing.

Not to mention judging engagement in spring break goers is kind of a major selection bias. Those who are upset about it wouldn't be in the mood to vacation.

Technically yes, but it isn't just goodness. There are plenty of dirty jobs that do good and thus few people want it. The logical extreme is being a martyr - no pay and death but regarded as ultimate good.

Way stations still need power to accept and refrigerate shipments. Distribution isn't just on trucks - although they could act as a small stopgap that also prevents them from making deliveries while being used as storage.

It would be sort of odd for computer parts historically to do so? but that sounds like a job for a futures contract.

Been hacking Sam Altman's inbox lately? Seriously how the hell could you actually know that instead of just assuming they are evil as possible?

When weren't new cars luxury items exactly?

It seems that the emotional rhetorical range in general has been stunted to just fear. Politicians seem to be the worst at it. They used to be able to give actually inspiring speeches. Now they just mash the fear button for everything to get what they want and then wonder why there are problems of despair in society.

To be frank that anti-system logic sounds a lot like. "Why are you taking a shower when there are people dying of thirst in a desert logic? Plumbing is an inherently unjust system for giving more water to those who already have enough!".

Yes there are flaws in the system, but smugly opting out of it and declaring yourself morally superior isn't helpful. Instead you need to actually do the work of understanding the system, its virtues and flaws before you can propose changes that would actually improve things.

You should never have had sex if you wanted to avoid doing anything hard.

Fuck the idiotic general public then. It was never about the children and everybody knows it. The same people who won't pay half a percent more in property taxes to ensure every schoolkid can get three meals a day suddenly care enough to want to give up privacy for safety? Pull the other one, it has bells on it.

Think for a nanosecond about how exploitable that is. Imagine for a moment that a foreign nation had obtained proof that say ICE was engaged in sex trafficking and publishing it only for it to be blocked as 'destabilizing propaganda'.

If anybody says that propaganda is a valid reason for censorship I say, censor thyself first.

The only problem is that it the argument is intuitive but isn't true. It hasn't been true for justifying using gas guzzlers instead of more efficient vehicles and is based upon farcial assumptions about "new vehicle people" pancaking their old cars every six months instead of the actual truth where even the neophiles cars wind up still on the road even if they get new ones, that most people don't in fact have the brand new but the backlog of previously new.

It hasn't been true for servers either, as reflected by the resale price of old server hardware. It turns out power over a long time frame dominates over the manufacturing costs. From what I've seen, the argument is just bad math and bad assumptions all the way down at best. At worst it is willful ignorance in service of validating their assumptions regardless of the truth.

I think it is quite reasonable to tell incompetents that they can't just cover their ass by claiming "you can't demand perfection".

These are the same kind of incompetents who want the pay but not the responsibility of the position. Who think that building a giant haystack of all of the data is the solution so they can illogically claim to have prevented something that because you had that needle in there somewhere! Except you never found it in time because you were too busy building the tower of Babel out of hay! It is just utterly idiotic double-think. (Cough, cough NSA!)

The punchline is that automatic firing for 'vulnerabilities' itself creates the very blackmail vulnerabilities they are trying to avoid.

When it violates reasonable expectations of privacy. Being in public isn't a get out of jail free card. I mean, I could put up a camera right outside your house. It is 'public streets' monitoring your coming to your house is the sort of thing that does require a warrant.

And what was the paperwork about you disingenuous asshole?

Really the folks doing them inside your nation are also adversaries. The worst ones in fact because they usually have the power or know somebody who has the power to jail you.

Nah, I think in this metaphor we need to lock up Mr.Stabby McStabFace instead of just allowing him to go without punishment for his repeated efforts to legalize face-stabbing.

We get it, you're a commie. No need to constantly repeat that you want public versions of everything that already exists.

I strongly disagree. You should always write rules under the assumption it will get in the hands of the worst people. If there is a 'become god-emperor' lever in your supposedly democratic government system then it is a shitty system.

In the favor of improving living conditions? If and only if it is through their ideology. If it is through something which goes against their ideology the goalposts move at the speed of light and out comes some rationalization like "it wasn't really important, what we need is community".

When communism had claims to being more productive growth was the most important thing in the world and why we should adopt their ideology. Now look at the 'degrowth' people what a coincidence and they are literally arguing for worsening living conditions....

There is no 'half-pregnant' option. Compromise is synonymous with 'bring into danger' for a reason. They are right to be dogmatic about rights - believing that is like believing it will really be 'just the tip'.

Just like how school shooters are irrelevant to any large scale discussion of education? It is very relevant and impactful and you can't just hand-wave it away by saying percentages mean it doesn't count.

Why do you want the children to grow up in an Orwellian dystopia?

That sounds like classic sour grapes to me. "The reason I'm not successful is because I'm ethical!". Instead of you know, business being a hard field.

Manufactured consent as a notion always felt like projection to me because of its advocates. As it was a notion pushed by people who insist they know "the interests" of people who are "voting wrong". All the while disregarding the fact that if we could rely on others knowing the interests of others better than others then aristocracy would be a superior system as the nobles being more educated would know the interests of the peasantry better.

The most important question: can both factions lose here?

Maintaining a 'mental RAM Cache' is a powerful tool to understanding the system as a whole on a deep and intuitive level, even if you can only 'render' sections at a time. The bigger it is the more you can keep track of to be able to foresee interactions between distant pieces.

It shouldn't be your only source of a plan as you'd likely wind up dropping something, but figuring out how to jiggle things around before getting it 'on paper' is something I've found helpful.