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PierredeFermat··on How science journalism is broken and how can we all fix it
tldr; I'd like to get in touch and do a deeper dive into the problem so that the solution can be refined. How can I reach out to you?

> I am a little surprised, given the title, that the issue being highlighted is blogspam and the brokenness is basically that science journalists can't fairly capitalize their effort.

I think this was slightly highlighted later in the post but agree that it wasn't stressed enough.

> Science journalism is broken not because spam blogs copy-paste articles. It's broken because the entire ecosystem has the wrong incentives.

I think the two are closely related; the copy-paste behavior contributes greatly to minimizing the window of capitalization. However, it's definitely not the only factor.

> Researchers, many of whom have inadequate statistical training, are academics facing publish-or-perish and weird publication barriers (p-value filtering, premium on sexy new results over well-researched incremental advances). The more senior authors who have tenure and are safe from some of the incentives still rely on lab funding, which is similarly competitive, and also tend to people whose methodological training is substantially out of date. Most journal reviewers are subject matter experts, some with limited statistical training.

That's basically a problem of science, perhaps at the core of it, but not science churnalism I think.

> I see very little evidence this process stems from the article's implied undertone that blog spam is costing legitimate journalists money and starving them of resources they need to do a good job.

You don't think aggregators that built some traction (i.e. Phys.org, MedicalXpress) are taking away opportunities of good journalism? I don't have quantitative evidence for this but the qualitative one is pretty strong (talking to journalists, for example).

> There is no notion of including comment from critical authors, and there is certainly no notion of critiquing the design, replicating the experiment (either a limited replication using the author's code / data, or a more thorough replication to obtain the substantive result) [...] The problem is the incentives. Imagine a science website that posts only 1/10th the number of posts, but deep-dives all of the ones they do. [...] This should be especially followed in disciplines like social psychology, applied economics, neuroscience, evolutionary anthropology or evolutionary psychology, medical research, nutrition research, and other fields where experimental or quasi-experimental design are more difficult.

Precisely the raison d'être of something like Health News. I guess this was pointed out near the end of the post. Although realizing it will take some time and traction, it looks like a good starting point.

PierredeFermat··on How science journalism is broken and how can we all fix it
The URL to Scripps Research is obviously working now, after the story got its largest share of public attention from other websites. Truly disappointing.
PierredeFermat··on Japanese study uncovers protein that keeps skin youthful
Was chatting about this with someone on Health News. I doubt it's lucky - the two compounds have been examined together in several previous studies; https://www.nature.com/articles/hr2005119

Are you a biologist by the way?

PierredeFermat··on Stem cell competition orchestrates skin homeostasis and ageing
It's two compounds that they've identified; apocynin and Y-27632. A comment here (https://news.nukleosome.com/t/anti-aging-discovery-could-lea...) explains it a bit, quoting the authors;

"We selected candidate chemicals that potentially increased the stem cell property [apocynin] or reduced production of reactive oxygen species [Y-27632] based on in silico information."

PierredeFermat··on Japanese study uncovers protein that keeps skin youthful
From a comment here (https://news.nukleosome.com/t/anti-aging-discovery-could-lea...) quoting the study authors:

"We selected candidate chemicals that potentially increased the stem cell property [Apocynin] or reduced production of reactive oxygen species [Y-27632]"

PierredeFermat··on The Heart of a Swimmer vs. the Heart of a Runner
No problem! What kind of prosthetics are you working on?
PierredeFermat··on Privacy Is Just the First Step, the Goal Is Data Ownership
You know, I think it is time that we argue about definitions. Many of them are starting to get loose.
PierredeFermat··on Privacy Is Just the First Step, the Goal Is Data Ownership
I'm not advocating against that, quite the opposite! My work involves solving exactly this class of problems and good privacy ensures such behavior does not take place.

What I don't see is how changing the nomenclature to 'ownership' would solve all of this. It's like calling some statistical models AI models. You see my point?

PierredeFermat··on The Heart of a Swimmer vs. the Heart of a Runner
You can check the full original study and conclusion here: https://news.nukleosome.com/t/left-ventricular-structure-and...
PierredeFermat··on Privacy Is Just the First Step, the Goal Is Data Ownership
I didn't claim it's an enthusiastic one. My claim is that all the sudden "privacy-is-not-enough" arguments make it seem like some breach happened without our agreement. To use your words, it's almost as if they're complaining about airport security/searches because we were never very explicitly warned about it.

If we don't do security checks or don't agree to some ToS, we'll be left out (of flights or online services). How many people would do that in exchange for 'ownership'?

Also, if you go to a bakery for couple months buying the same bread. Would you sue the bakery if the seller automatically knew what you're going to get, after two months of transactions, and wrapped your favorite bread for you with a smile (not the Amazon smile)? Is that also data you should own and encrypt?

Does your physician need your consent on every visit to unlock your health information in his brain and be able to follow up?

Imagine that this comment I'm writing here is locked into my very own encrypted vault and HN needs my consent every time someone wants to read it (although I used HN to write it!). I cannot imagine how would the discourse evolve this way.

So justifying 'ownership' as the future solution using invalid argumentation by analogy isn't solid. A more solid approach is to actually build products with well-enforced privacy and transparency rather than just theorize about it. Or even build and experiment with the 'ownership' proposition and see how would that play out.

PierredeFermat··on Privacy Is Just the First Step, the Goal Is Data Ownership
How is it not true?
PierredeFermat··on Privacy Is Just the First Step, the Goal Is Data Ownership
Most, if not all, arguments on data ownership are arguments by analogy. This makes them ipso facto invalid. Using that same line of inductive reasoning, we could argue that we own the trash we generate, and that's not a reductio ad absurdum.

An encrypted 'digital locker' is a naive and unreal solution, at least until homomorphic encryption is mature. How would I request data I'm interested in from people without knowing if they have it in the first place? Issue a million requests? And if I'm issuing such requests, do people have to pay me now because it's data that I have generated?

We are agreeing on the terms and policies of all information services we use and generate data from. It's not like they took us by surprise, except for few Analytica cases of course. If we follow the data ownership argument, which has (re)surfaced mostly due to media attention on FB and the likes, such services will become dysfunctional right away.

Privacy isn't the weak argument, it's just not very well enforced yet mostly because most people don't care much. Ideally, if a company wants to sell your data, as part of their ToS/PP, they notify you. If you approve, you get a share of that sale (basically what Nukleosome is doing). If you don't, they just move on.

PierredeFermat··on Low-quality sleep can lead to procrastination
Of course, anything could be adjusted for recency if you adjust the scope. However, if you read new research everyday, that's far from recent.

As for the probable 2 years period, it doesn't look like it is the case in the paper; "Seventy one full-time employees participated [...] Participants completed a one-shot general electronic questionnaire"

PierredeFermat··on Low-quality sleep can lead to procrastination
The original study (https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.0202...) is not recent as the article kicks off with; it was Received: 14 January 2018; Accepted: 02 October 2018; Published: 02 November 2018.

Also, this seems to be observed only in those "who have low trait self-control".

Adjusting the title for those two points may be more helpful.

PierredeFermat··on 28,000-year-old mammoth cells have shown reactivity in mouse egg cells
It might be geographic proximity to Siberia and thus abundance of research material, which drives some funding to do more research which then drives more funding, etc.
PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
It is quite good indeed. Where do you see it lacking? Perhaps this is a blindspot for admins.

The aim is to really have some good discussions from time to time. We definitely don’t want to make it a place to just dump links into.

PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
"[...] with about 5 [contributing] users." On the 'consuming' side, it's more than 20X of that.

In any case, the raison d'être of this is to maintain a quality discourse around human health and biology. Why it doesn't "seem" to have achieved that goal yet is simply because it's a brand new project.

Now the reason for starting with Discouse is that, among its numerous capabilities, it actually does more than you'd expect when it comes to moderation. So it will help us maintain the quality as the community grows and we build our own tools.

Again, this is still in its infancy phase and even HN didn't look like HN on day or week one; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1

I guess good things don't get built up in a hurry :) especially good communities.

PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
Agreed although it may not apply for every community/community type. Looks like you listened to Masters of Scale recently? :)
PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
The reason we're leaving it at 'Latest' for now is because that's where the 'Welcome' post is pinned, which is important for people to get a sense of what it's all about and what does it stand for (i.e. mission).
PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
Could you please shoot an email to one@nukleosome.com? Just mention that you came from HN.
PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
Yes. That would make sense
PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
Their last release was almost 3 months ago and this is still a bit of an infant :)

However, please feel free to submit any interesting stuff on that front!

PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
Kudos to all those who made HN the special community it is today, in a scalable way or not.
PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
Glad! Discourse is great to get something like this off the ground. We may change in the future.
PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
Good point. We'll look into this.
PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
Thanks for your feedback!

I think we totally agree. Our sole goal, as stated here: https://news.nukleosome.com/t/welcome-to-health-news/7 is to evolve this into a community that is as high quality as HN is. But HN wasn't HN on its day one. Speaking of which, here's a legendary post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1 ;)

PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
Since this seems to be more serious than expected, do you mind getting in touch? We want to see how we can help.
PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
You don't learn to ride a bike by avoiding bikes :)

Nonetheless, it's totally understandable.

PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
Absolutely so. Posts with more engagement will automatically climb up and that's on the "Top" section (https://news.nukleosome.com/top). We'll make this section the default as the community grows.

Thanks for the feedback!

PierredeFermat··on Show HN: Health News – Hacker News for Health
That's an Easter Egg :) Just add .rss to any URL, except the main one of course.

E.g. https://news.nukleosome.com/latest.rss

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