Rover222

nope

This is such a braindead take. Ford could have taken advantage of those same EV incentives. Any other new startup could have too. Tesla got nothing special.

Typical "everything is bad" response. This is going to employ thousands of blue collar workers for years. Reasonable environmental protections will be in place. It's not going to become some barren toxic waste zone.

are you living under a rock?

I'm assume you would have said the thing about an orbital shell of 10k satellites with laser links for global internet. Or a fully reusable 2nd stage made of steel.

you're all so clueless with these arguments. there's 5x the solar power in space. it's all about how many watts of compute you can bring online. in a sun synchronous orbit there is 24-hr solar power. there is no weather or maintenance.

remind me 3 years to laugh at how wrong you are

Is it possible that your understanding of the problems is not quite on par with the best engineers in the world?

no, the whole concept of orbital datacenters

but this is all a coordinated scam to pump up stock prices

(end sarcasm)

okay...

Meanwhile Nvidia just announced a space-optimized Vera Rubin designed with SpaceX designed for orbital datacenters.

But yeah, I'm sure you people with Elon Derangement Syndrome actually have it all figured out /s

https://x.com/nvidia/status/2091920680317046847

Yeah, very hard to predict the future at this point. But the Starship + Terrafab combo will be this type of order-of-magnitude-moat IF it works out. Big if.

If it doesn't work out, I think China's exponential terrestrial energy deployment will eventually give them the lead, IF they can get enough chips. Another big if.

I think the only moat in the future will be the scale of hardware deployment. If one company is able to deploy an order of magnitude more silicon, they'll have a firm grip on a SOTA model and massive inference usage.

China or SpaceX seem like the 2 likely candidates in 5 years, but who knows.

Grok 4.6 is a delight to use in this regard, compared to Claude

Credit to SpaceXai (whatever it's called now) for going through the added effort of not destroying these books

Kind of confusing people won't use this because they don't trust Musk, but has any other major platform even tried to open source their algorithms the way he has with X?

I get hating his politics, and his predictions are often behind schedule, but he certainly says what he thinks and isn't in some shady user data markting business like zuckerberg.

Anyone who trusts Altman over Musk is... I don't know. Give me the autist over the sociopath when it comes to handling my data.

ah yes, the EU shall continue to fade into irrelevance (except for as a dope vacation spot and some fine cheese)

One almost milk latte uses more water than tens of thousands of Chat GPT requests, by the way.

That's not an exaggeration.

And plenty of anti-datacenter folks are sipping that every day.

China is certainly thrilled with how this manufactured moral panic is playing out in the US. AI is going to be the most important technology in the world before long.

The water use panic is so ridiculous. The sheep pushing it do so while sipping almond milk lattes. One almond milk latte uses the same water as tens of thousands of chat gpt requests.

~80–90 liters for one typical almond milk latte vs. ~0.3–15 mL for one ChatGPT request. Using a mid-range AI figure of ~5 mL: one latte ≈ 16,000–18,000 ChatGPT requests. Using OpenAI’s ~0.32 mL figure: one latte ≈ 250,000+ requests. Even with a higher AI estimate of 50 mL: still roughly 1,600–1,800 requests per latte.

Didn't Norway just invest 1 billion in SpaceX via their sovereign wealth fund?

Nice reminder that even the most successful socialist societies still depend on someone somewhere being productive to generate wealth to redistribute. North Sea oil money doesn't hurt.

That's true, it's a spectrum. And the US has wayyy more free speech than even Great Britain.

I'm a fan of Snowden, but suggesting that we're living in an authoritarian state because he's in exile is a stretch, IMO.

Africa: what is law?

we have free speech, don't be so gullible. you think Chinese citizens can go out in the streets and say anything they want.

pathetically ignorant.

possibly the beginning of the recursive feedback as models begin to aid in their own improvement? especially algorithmic improvements, which seems to have a lot of wide open space for gains

laughable thinking the us govt is authoritarian. unless you were referring to some other govt

Once again, it is incredibly ignorant to suggest that just because it looks like a Nazi salute that was the intention. There’s no reality that suggests that was his intention. It’s just your political brainwashing.

Brainwashed. It’s creepy.

You’re just incapable of talking about these things honestly. It’s NOT ethnic cleansing. Your exaggeration of that war, and your calling Musk a Nazi is what gets people shot in the neck.

It is seriously absurd to believe he did it as a Nazi salute. But you just want to believe it.