UpsideDownRide

Maybe the silver lining will be the collapse of the market, hardware being accesible again and we can just run local models.

A man can dream, right?

Building capacity with looming bust around the corner has its own drawbacks. Damned if you do damned if you dont situation for them.

It's even worse for your mental to never think about It.

Fully agree. There is so much customization that I'm doing thanks to LLMs that I just wouldnt to bother to do by myself.

They still happen.

In both cases it was not a solo project.

It's like Elon paying someone to place on an arpg ladder. Or like driving a car to civer the marathon distance.

There is something being done in both cases but it aint the thing.

Mind you there is nothing inherently wrong in using LLMs. The issue is when trying to pass it as your own output.

To give you some perspective. When I was in drug rehab beside people addicted to substances there was a handful of people with gambling problems. And it was very clear that those are the same kind of issue even if delivery mechanism is different.

Gambling rides on the same pathways that make substances fucking with dopaminergic system addictive.

It's not "addictive", it's addictive.

LTV is not encompassing enough of a concept. We are getting immense value from nature that we are not accounting for and LTV is just as oblivious to it. And there are more holes like that in it.

World? What would make you think this was ever about the world and not very particular interests?

It doesn't include the non market services provided. And those are non trivial part of rising children. So both things can be true - median monetary income is higher and rising a child is more expensive.

That's burying the fact that people have had done a lot more work that does not show up in pure econ stats. Care provided by stay at home primary caretaker or the offloading of that care to extended family those are huge things that you can't simply wrangle out of raw data.

No worries, not like we have a system that is attuned to variable reward schedule. And if we had it wouldn't be addictive either.

Yeah I concur, economic science is the prime example.

I'll give you a recent example from my usage. Pi harness with extension for learning Chinese. When using it to feed drill questions to me and rate answers it would sometimes get lost in the sauce and start generating user aka me answer and then rate it and comment it. It's trivially wrong to the point that if a person would do that, they would be considered for some serious psych issues.

And it gets even better since when called out it wouldn't just take my word for it but only acknowledged the issue after parsing the log with clearly delineated user and model output.

So yeah while impressive things are able to be done, the current models are also dumb AF and an idiot savant is a pretty good label for them.

Nah it's not reasonable to use words that send you down a wrong concept path.

Yeah, feeding straight into AI is going to kill us marketing that is being pushed and oaid for people to talk about.

Did we? Because while seemingly obvious nowadays it is not a settled matter in orthodox econ academia.

I have been hearing about Sweden's downfall due to migrants for my whole life. And I'm not a young person.

Hey you wrote out my general thoughts on the subject pretty damn well :)

I think you are doing a lot of assuming on how AI can be used for tutoring. I'm currently augmenting Chinese in person tutoring with a pi harness that helps me out with drills, lets me explore what things mean, get similar words or context related words and so on. It's not perfect, def not good enough to be a standalone thing, def has barrier of entry of being motivated to do honest self work but it's a massive value add into the process for me.

One huge issue IMO is that right now, around the world, most people are not taught at all how to learn for themselves nor how to critically think on their own. And that will indeed result in using it as a crutch and not a good tutoring tool.

Diffrence being state did not have control to stop disgruntled people from organizing. And it might be that preventing such formations is actually detrimental long run.

Djinniuses

Yes, yes quarter them publicly ina square. Make executions great again - that solved the societal issues back in the day.

And dont think about any kind of social support net and caring for people that would be girly and a socialism. Can't have that.

What do you even mean it wasn't a collaboration. At any meaningful level LLMs just plain out suck when left unguided.

The shortcomings should really be obvious by now to anyone honest. And the marketing distortion being oushed out is just tiresome and detrimental for all of us.

Is that true if we move to local models?

If people can't adapt then they will get left behind. There is little value in providing a username for LLM to speak instead of you.

This, in my opinion, is some part of how we are schooling people - do as you are told and follow the rules and some part of not having stakes in the outcome.

It reads like you are using tone deaf as a substitute for 'somethign I dont like'

If Stewie punched me, It doesn't mean Quagmire didnt.