After I wrote the article, a lot of it boils down to basic project management. But each of these points I’ve made mistakes on and I don’t personally find any of this that intuitive so I hope this helps others
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After I wrote the article, a lot of it boils down to basic project management. But each of these points I’ve made mistakes on and I don’t personally find any of this that intuitive so I hope this helps others
I say this as a canadian based in sf
I agree though, hasty response is the mark of a junior eng
I have a similar issue where maybe once or twice a night now my sp02 drops below 90, followed by a spike in my heart rate. From the word of my sleep doctor, that is not normal for a younger person. She used this to try to justify the cost of a psg to my insurance company.
Find a different doctor. Young and fat is not the qualifying criterea. From this entire thread you can get a sense that there are a lot of people suffering out there that have sleep apnea but not fat. Also, a take home sleep study is cheap and easy and covered by insurance.
My hsat was covered by insurance, but I had to self fund psg and my insurance wouldn't pay for it. My sleep specialist quoted 3k, I went with axg sleep diagnostics.
He considers DISE to show collapse that would not normally occur. Because under dise you are heavily sedated. Like after drinking alcohol, the airway is not the same as a normal state.
Also it is much less regulated as its not fda approved, so the quality you are getting is less certain than shots. I would not be surprised if the majority of SLIT use cases in the US are placebo due to cost constraints outside of the fda approved tablets covered by insurance. Yes studies is one thing and its shown clearly that its comparable, but you need the right concentrations
TBH I am skeptical of startups that operate in this type of environment as theres not enough oversight. For me to be comfortable it would need to be very transparent what is going into the mix
source: https://fairfieldcountyallergy.com/whats-the-story-on-allerg... "Sublingual immunotherapy is not currently covered by health insurance companies in the United States because it is ineffective as it is done here"
I had a team of specialists:
- Sleep: Dr Sinha (primary), AXG Sleep Diagnostics (for psg), Lofta, and Night Owl
- ENT: Dr. Gerald Kangelaris (nasal surgery), Dr Andrew H. Murr (consult)
- Allergist: Dr Opal Gupta (primary) and Dr Carmen Choy (amazing doctor! consult)
- Gastroenterologist: (upper gi endoscopy), unnamed as I dont recommend
- Sleep apnea surgical expert: Dr Kasey Li (triple board certified, best in the world)
- Primary care (One Medical)
- An ENT and a consulting ENT for a second opinion
- A oral surgeon specializing in sleep apnea
- Two sleep medicine doctors
- Two allergists ( one for shots, one for consult )
- Multiple GP's from one medical
- A gastroenterologist that did an upper gi endoscopy
My message I tried to convey is that you need to own the entire process though. none of the people above will do it for you or do their job beyond their specialty
A take home sleep test is easy and is covered by insurance.
So just make sure to not place the air purifier in a corner, but more central. And turn it up to a higher power. Or run your AC fan continuously
But I did followup home tests after treating it, and have done polysomnography which is the gold standard of diagnostic test. I also wear continuous spo2 monitoring on a monthly basis to see where I am from my own device bought on amazon
To treat, I needed a team of specialists (sleep doctor, allergist, ent, maxillofacial surgeon, GPs, and a gastroenterologist) to tackle the various causes and measure the effect. I also consulted Dr Kasey Li, probably the world's leading expert on sleep apnea surgery. He recommended his own surgery expanding the maxilla, but I don't think I need to go that far as its very expensive and I am much better today. I've seen several sleep doctors, will list Dr Sinha at peninsula as someone I would recommend, along with AXG Sleep Diagnostics for an affordable polysomngraphy if you need to pay out of pocket. For ENT, I will also recommend Dr Gerald Kangelaris (skilled surgeon) in SF and Dr Andrew Murr (head of ucsf ENT) if you need a second opinion
Also a lot of my interventions are done daily. So if I miss things or get lazy I can recognize if there is a difference. I also motion record myself automatically every night. In the morning I review how much I toss and turn. Its been about a year of experimentation
many other causes though (nasal infection, diet, etc)