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Move to a remote island if you want to be a saint. But don't posture to be a holy man or even more simply "a better man" by not eating animals and byproducts.

The stance of "the man" against psychedelics for the past half century is either a cosmic joke, cosmic conspiracy, or both.

And creates a perverse incentive for kickback relationships between certain industries and the judicio-prison complex to funnel more de facto slaves into the system.

Until you attempt to shake another's position in a social hierarchy (wittingly or not). Violence, vengeance, and pettiness are not only driven by barbaric feelings. They're strategies! Ones that disgust my intrinsic aesthetics, and probably yours, but which nonetheless are wielded. So let the timid have their controlled experience with such things so that when the wolf "of man known as man" attempts to ambush them, they can drive it off.

But since we're talking about psychedelics like LSD, awakening those qualities seems like a rare experience. I think majority experience would be a light in a tunnel that younger generations seem funneled into as everything around them is increasingly predatory ala ads, distraction, substandard diets, and probably a million other parasites. Being able to shed that for a brief bit and to not shoulder the heaviness of all your frustrations and expectations is immense.

Note: Done 200+ trips w/ 2 bad ones in the first 10.

* - Note that more people, especially younger folks with their hyperbolic tendencies, and anonymity means more raw sociopathy and psychopathy being displayed in relation to those events. It's at least partially a function of the numbers game.

4chan and 8chan didn't create hyperirony (although they certainly cultivate massive gardens of it) or densensitization. Our media cycle has created it in tandem with a feedback loop that synergizes with the principle of "more people + same time amount = more hyperslices of emotion eliciting news that distort mental maps of larger-than-self situations"

You're safer at a wal-mart than prior 4chan and 8chan. But if you combine higher population density and information density, you'll get more raw events of violence even if the chance of experiencing violence has gone down.

Imo, there's a more insidious risk in allotting more powers of censorship to entities who are far less subject to reciprocal investigation. Think of 9/11. If we had done nothing, we would be safer and more prosperous today. We let the fleas provoke us into gouging untold amounts of flesh to stop itches.

Edit: A more simple way to phrase it is that hyperirony and the lack of "proper affect", which is really what people seem to be most horrified about, is a defense against the 24/7 atrocity exhibition which turns emotion into banality.

These aren't exactly organized bands of people funneling in millions of dollars for carrying out actual training and misson planning/execution. They're watering holes where disaffected elements of society hyperbolically play up various happenings.

Just take a step back for a moment. We have an increasing population and increasing saturation of that population with streams of data. When something happens, we know with a speed that is uncommon in human history (to be euphemistic about it).

More population = more happenings = more things to emotionally charge people in the same 24 hour frame. Even if population increases by a bajillion, we still only have 24 hours in a media cycle.

Even if the per capita incidence of violence decreases, a rising population means more slices of highly charged emotional manipulation within the same media cycle.

Edit: So instead of increasing population, resultant increasing pop density, increasing information density, and a myriad of clusterf* systems running haywire (even in an era where we're safer than even 20 years ago)...4chan and 8chan are the devil and satan for allowing people to shitpost in a hyperbolic hyperironic manner?

If Capital wants billions of new consumer and their resultant markets, Capital better steward the natural resources that enable those billions to thrive.

:^)

For this you want to expose society to even more dystopian ruin by hyper-asymetrical information gatherng via GPS on a per body basis.

You can't make this up.

Lol. Has the past half century or so of law enforcement hammered in a belief in the moderation of power by law enforcement? That such power is never used asymmetrically against the lower strata of society as opposed to the elites? Will it prevent people from being the victims of selective enforcement of laws, even non-violent ones involving the mere possession of drugs?

Lol. Lol. Lol.

The expansion of certain mental faculties (3-D Visualization, free thought association, meta-thought) could have been harvested for societal benefit...

Oh well, wishes to the dust and all that.

Is the World Economic Forum a purveyor of conspiracy theories? Is our reduced purchasing power at the level of food and rent a conspiracy theory?

Edit: My apologies, here's the actual WEF press release https://www.weforum.org/press/2017/05/global-pension-timebom...

1. Make a mockery of prudent allocation of money and get bailed out when their games get messed up

2. Mess up the purchasing power of any money you possess far more than any individual defaults or even class of individual defaults

3. Impose grave and hidden responsibilities on individual borrowers and mass surveillance...

They are messing up your finances far more than the most reckless individual borrowers ever could. *

PS - How is finance going to deal with the multitrillion dollar pension bomb? With prudence or with a combination of a game of musical chairs and chickens until stuff gets serious? How is your financial discipline, as an individual, going to protect you from manmade tsnumais?

"Why are people defaulting on their bills!?"

The whole notion of transfer of majority responsibility to an individual is one of the slimiest things in this society. We get monitored by an array of hidden surveillance measures and algorithimic judgement we have no way to properly counter or defend ourselves against. Meanwhile central credit gets to borrow money and get bailed out.

Give me a fudging break.

When you shove apes deeper into the pits of the dominance hierarchies and feed them garbage, you're going to have resentment.

Along those lines, capital has been concentrating ever more into a smaller slice of the population while cutting the value of the humble pile of capital the average US citizen has. I don't believe in wealth as a zero sum game but I do believe in hyper-predator agents steering the system for more ill-begotten gains. Which becomes a zero sum game...

Civilization (so far) depends on the principle of a monopolizable surplus which allows an elite to mobilize lower ranking elements for games of war and power across geographical distances and temporal distances that would be impossible for HnG societies (bound by the non-monopolizable bounty of the land and the lifestyles possible in such lands)+.

An "evil" or "megalomaniac and sociopathic" society in HnG can only extend as far as their adaptive mode of production. Who can gather all the wild fruits of the earth and deny his brother the bounty?

An "evil" agarian society can mobilize the monopoly surplus to cajole and punish societal elements far beyond the "natural" borders any HnG tribe would've been able to maintain and into torturous decades and centuries.

+ - I've read about a few HnG societies where class structures arose because they had some sort of natural monopoly position; crossroads of a regional trading route or salmon run bottlenecks. But the important part is that monopolizable resources "alter" human nature and society.

Terrorism which is exacerbated by our own shadowy geopolitical agendas...

And it's ludicrous to say "We shall have a mass surveillance system or mass terrorism!", as if security theater revealed the actual effectiveness of such actions!

Do you love giving Leviathan the sword it stabs you with, the whip that scourages you, and the mouth which mocks your humanity?

They spend their most productive years paying off student loans (while inflationary policies make them poorer). But OOPS all the terrible information about nutrition and a lack of physical activity incurs future medical costs that bite them in the kaboose.

It's kinda depressing if you think about it too long. Obesity being a new normal is an ever-ongoing disaster that technically is entirely preventable.

But man, it's hard to escape dietary culture imposed from youth.

Any communication channel, by virtue of human nature, is going to enable assaulters and murderers. If you look at assault and murder, most people are victimized by their own kind.

>So basically your average burning man tent

Maybe. But did the user of this have to deal with similar levels of noise and of density of people (never been to Burning Man btw)?

My "experience" has mostly been around quiet areas or with a friend in a room/home. The heart already gets a race just doing nothing, being in a dense communal environment sounds hellish on such substances.

In this world your existence is "unethical", in regards to a question like that, unless you want to live on a mountain peak above the messiness of ordinary human moral calculation and compromise.