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If anything, you could make a solid case about a bank going out of business before anything. But all jokes aside, before building anything, security of funds is something we made sure our users feel really good about and we found a great partner to make sure your accounts and deposits are insured!
I think as founders, we have a really bad habit of pretending out competitors are stupid and operating as if they didn't know what they were talking about. That's rarely the case in general, and certainly not the case in this instance. Tristian (CEO of zen99) wrote an awesome post mortem, which I think was just shared below, and it's been really helpful for quite a few of us in the fintech space. Continuing to read and build on the lessons that companies have learned before us is a big part of why we built the product we did as opposed to trying to replicate zen99 and hope it worked out for us. We really appreciate this thread and you guys pointing out the similarities between our companies!
2)We are NOT from Nebraska, but we found an awesome tech-forward bank in Lincoln Savings Bank who saw a pain point in the 1099 world and got really excited about helping us build out a tax solution.
3) We don't automatically send quarterlies (yet) but we do send reminders and make it really easy to remit that payment every quarter. Shortly, you'll see an automated solution built into the product.
4) In answer to your W-2 question, yes, employers automatically withhold taxes for their employees and remit that money to the IRS throughout the year. Essentially the government holds on to this cash all year and if you've overpaid, you'll get a refund. This is what happens in a fair amount of W-2 job situations, but when you're self-employed, you're on the hook for taxes and are expected to separate funds and pay estimated quarterlies throughout the year - a tough thing to manage on top of client work, life, and whatnot.
And you're absolutely right, we don't remove the need to have a CPA, we DO, however, reduce the time you need to interact with your CPA and make it really easy for them to do their job. Given the hourly rate of my CPA, I've paid for Painless if I can reduce his work by almost an hour. We're finding that CPAs and freelancers alike are really digging what we've built thus far.
All in all, this is a product to help people like us solve the same problems we've run into over the years.
As far as quarterlies go, we pass along reminders and quarterly filing instructions currently. In the near future, you'll be able to remit payment directly from our platform.
True story - our accountant sent me my personal bill last week and I had a heart attack until I remembered I have an account with cash in it specifically FOR my taxes this year. It was a "duhhh" kinda moment, but I've been so programmed as a consultant to freak out about 1099 taxes, so it was my default reaction even after spending the whole year building a solution.
ACe here from Painless1099 (www.painless1099.com). We automate tax withholding/filing for anyone earning 1099 income (think: freelancers and Uber drivers.)
We're thinking through growth specifically right now and are chewing on whether to go the B2B route or the B2C route. Different implications for both regarding scale and revenue obviously. We'd be stoked on a bit of help figuring out which to tackle first and how to make headway!
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