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Could you elaborate a bit more about what you think about Friston? All I know of him was from this article: https://www.wired.com/story/karl-friston-free-energy-princip...

And I took it at face value, what am I missing?

When someone can drive from Palm Springs to SF with no intervention does that not make it bullshit anymore?

Do you see a need to have a good ontology of describing generalized supply chains? I see a few classes that cover this but am not sure if it is a focus.

This is great, you will be hearing from me :)

Does complexity economics have a working ontology to model how companies/regulations/supply chains interact with each other?

This is interesting thank you. The approach seems to be "money/cash centered" from what I am gleaming.

I am wondering what a "company-centered" approach ontology would be.

Very cool! Do you mind posting what ontology you used for the graph? It is difficult to figure out what is a "node" or what is a "node property". Is "energy demand" of a company a property of the company node, or is that a node itself that connects to energy supply companies?

Sometimes StackOverflow energy bleeds into Hackernews lol

Interesting way to put it, "digital twin of the world economy".

What would be the simplest ontology definition to get a rudimentary idea of what's going on?

A basic model, or general ontology is the scope. Very much agree dynamic situations and finding equilibrium is definitely a non-trivial question.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33712337

This is very helpful thank you :)

Having a general idea of what can be affected is the goal, not an accurate prediction of the future universe

How can the Ukraine war affect Subway (restaurant)

Ukraine war (catalyst) -> Key exports of Ukraine -> Grain -> Acme Grain To Flour Co -> Subway

Supply/price of flour may change for Subway.

Node Types: - Country/Region (Ukraine) - Raw Material (grain) - Company (subway / acme grain to flour co)

Relationships - Export - Input to - Supplier to

If you make the nodes only "public companies" and the edges "have a business relationship" it is not an exceptionally difficult, would be pretty trivial.

The question is what is an appropriate ontology to have some basic sense of how a catalyst can affect a company.

If a catalyst affects nodes, how many steps until it hits the "company node" in question.

My question is more focused on what the ontology would be for different purposes?

What are the node types, properties of the nodes, and the edge types to best model a catalyst (like the Ukraine war).

Haven't heard of the "stock-flow consistent model" before that is helpful I appreciate it.

I am not very clever so I assume this means "it won't be used"?

I think this perspective makes sense in both technology and business models. The "hard" part will be less about creating for a medium but the concept of a compelling narrative.

Do you mean to imply that Ukraine does not exist?

This is a novel take. Russia won’t conscript you if you are on vacation?

This whataboutism whack-a-mole in the comments trying to equate China to the US is tiring but it seems to be necessary to not give lurkers the impression that this is the consensus

EDIT: previously hyperbolic

I am glad hackernews has not fallen to the nihilism that most other platforms have when clearly attacked by foreign agents or special interests astroturfing and using whataboutism.

Most other communities just go along with nihilism about democracy because it is in vogue to pretend we are another authoritarian regime. Nice to see the nerds haven't given up :)

The changes in algorithms directed by the CCP can be tracked like purchases of online ads through facebook/twitter?

What kind of nonsense comparison is this good lord.

This prevailing argument on hackernews that "American and China are equally authoritarian regimes" is patently absurd.

One is used to hearing these types of nonsense points being made in high school by kids trying to be proactive and contrarian but it getting to a supposedly "rational" community makes me think the community has been infiltrated by Chinese agents or other special interest groups astroturfing.

This prevailing argument on hackernews that "American and China are equally authoritarian regimes" is patently absurd.

One is used to hearing these types of nonsense points being made in high school by kids trying to be provocative and contrarian but it getting to a supposedly "rational" community makes me think the community has been infiltrated by Chinese agents or other special interest groups astroturfing.

The purpose of the algorithm is to provide content "for you". If you have not used tik tok I understand why you would not see the issue. Tik tok users quickly are lead into a "reality" based on what content is shown. You can sow division or push narratives quite easily if you control these algorithms in ways you cannot on facebook/twitter/etc.

I can't tell if you are one of the Chinese agents that seem to be ever present on hackernews nowadays or you are somehow unaware of the very real self-censoring Hollywood does for China

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/how-holl...

I see what you mean, appreciate the clarification

Do you have evidence of this?

So you do not have an example of any of our adversaries changing their behavior because we are acting more "enlightened", but you want to do it anyway because you believe it is good

Isn't China dictating Hollywood's scripts a challenge to this projection?

Hollywood is the main exporter of American culture and values and that seems to have been compromised quite effectively in this last decade.

Have our adversaries historically ever taken note and followed more "enlightened" behavior?