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Infracost | Founding Engineer | Remote +/-5h UTC | Full-time | https://www.infracost.io

I'm Ali, co-founder of Infracost - happy to chat with people about this position, ali@infracost.io

$80B will be spent on cloud infra this year but 30% is wasted. No wonder companies fear their cloud bill! We're on a mission to empower engineering teams to use the cloud efficiently and economically. We want everyone to love their cloud bill.

Tech: we're building open source dev tools, see https://github.com/infracost/ for our repos. We use Go, TypeScript and Node.js

Sr Full Stack Engineer https://infracost.io/join-the-team

I've also been thinking about that! I wonder if https://archive.org/web/ is an alternative though, as in could I pay them so they could mirror it for a 100 years?

Yep - it seems to depend on the architecture too (e.g. companies that lift-and-shift to the cloud use VMs heavily). We're discussing ideas on https://github.com/infracost/infracost/issues/730, e.g. could CloudWatch be used to fetch the usage so user has context of what those elastic services used last week/month.

> I'm terrified of the literally infinite bill that might show up from a typo a month down the line

Whilst this might sound funny, we were surprised to see it as a common use-cases with users putting https://github.com/infracost/infracost in their CI/CD pipelines to act as safety net. Currently it only works for Terraform users, but we plan to add other infra-as-code tools in the future. We're also discussing how we can do this for people who don't use infra-as-code in https://github.com/infracost/infracost/issues/840 but it's not clear what the workflow could look like for them. Perhaps having separate AWS accounts with a budget alert that emails you to run https://github.com/rebuy-de/aws-nuke is a work-around just now.

(I'm co-founder of Infracost)

> By tracking cloud spend, the company enables engineers, and not just finance teams, to take ownership of cloud spend.

> tie the pain directly to the folks who can fix the problem

That's why we're building https://github.com/infracost/infracost for engineering teams (free open source)

Co-founder of Infracost here, happy to help with integrations if needed. Regarding smaller cloud providers, someone from our community is adding Scaleway, such providers usually have pricing that is an order of magnitude simpler than AWS/GCP/Azure.

Pretty cool to see companies create new teams focused on cloud efficiency, seems like they're going beyond using traditional cloud cost management tools by trying to create a culture of cost awareness in their eng teams.

We're trying to do a similar thing by putting a comment in PRs (e.g. for Terraform repos) to say how much the cost of the change will be before it goes live (we're open source https://github.com/infracost/infracost). Always interested in hearing what people think about this approach.

An S3 bucket has over 50 cost components, it took us a good while to map the pricing to Terraform parameters so everyone can understand that when they run `terraform apply`: https://github.com/infracost/infracost/blob/master/infracost...

This looks very cool! I'm seeing a new wave of cloudnative CI/CD tools. What's your take on Terraform vs Pulumi long term?

hah! I remember reviewing the PR for that resource (https://github.com/infracost/infracost/pull/377). I was surprised it cost that much

That's cool, I had seen https://cloudcraft.co but BrainBoard seems to be taking things to the next level. We're seeing the need for cloud price and cost information to be available in other products and are happy to explore integration opportunities. My email is ali@infracost.io

that's a cool idea, who would benefit? consumers I guess? They'd be able to compare or even just understand what they're about to pay for (either direct or via insurance).

And getting cloud-bill shock is like going to emergency department :D

I've seen many companies user "terminator" scripts that shutdown/delete things that aren't tagged as "keep" or something like that, though only in non-production accounts. The budget alerts from the cloud providers can be useful too (AWS recently released cost anomaly alerts).

We're trying to tackle this problem with https://github.com/infracost/infracost from another angle for people who use Terraform: show a cost estimate in pull requests so the user understands what costs money, and roughly how much it costs. I hope that helps clarify "only pay for what you use" without trawling through cloud pricing pages.

I'm wondering if people would find it useful to see the cost of using opensource projects that spin-up resources in their AWS accounts before they run `terraform apply`? Or maybe a repo shield/badge in the readme? (the idea came from https://github.com/infracost/infracost/issues/43)

I'm not sure how it could work for usage-based resources like Lambda/S3, maybe just assuming minimum usage for each resource is good enough to provide a rough monthly estimate? e.g. 1M Lambda requests, 1 GB storage and 1K S3 requests, then let users customize those numbers if they care to find out more?

How do you take pricing into your design considerations? Does it come with experience from using an AWS service in production and understanding how it's priced, combined with the usage numbers the new system might get? I'm trying to learn more about how engineers currently do this.

> Had we chosen max-instances to be “2”, our costs would’ve been 500 times less. $72,000 bill would’ve been: $144. Had we chosen concurrency of “1” request, we probably wouldn’t have even noticed the bill.

> If you count the number of pages in GCP documentation, it’s probably more than pages in few novels. Understanding Pricing, Usage, is not only time consuming, but requires a deep understanding of how Cloud services work. No wonder there are full time jobs for just this purpose!

Great write-up - thanks for sharing @bharatsb! As you say, cloud pricing has become too complex for developers to understand quickly (they want to ship features, not calculate costs). Infra-as-code is great, but it has made it even harder to understand which code/config option costs what. `terraform apply` is like a checkout screen without prices.

We're trying to solve this problem with infracost.io, initially looking at Terraform. It would be interesting to get your feedback on whether such an approach might have helped you? Probably not as it doesn't look like you were using Terraform?

They might change their 128MB rounding-up structure but they already had per 1ms pricing with the minimum execution time and memory for a single function execution being 100ms and 128MB respectively.

(Google do per 100ms and have 6 pre-defined memory sizes to pick from).

In case it helps Terraform users estimate their cloud costs, I updated https://www.infracost.io to support the new ms-based Lambda pricing (https://github.com/infracost/infracost/pull/248/files, it'll be in the next infracost release).

I'm interested to hear what people think about https://www.infracost.io/docs/usage_based_resources - longer term we could extend that to fetch average_request_duration from cloudwatch or datadog.

RightScale | Santa Barbara, CA or US-remote | Senior Software Engineer

We enable large enterprises such as Volkswagen, EA Games, Technicolor and PBS deploy, monitor and scale their systems on any cloud they want to.

We're looking for a Senior Software Engineer to join our team in our Santa Barbara office, or work remotely in the US. You'll have an opportunity to work across our technology stack, develop new features, and be involved in the full product lifecycle from requirements gathering, architecture and design, to coding and testing. We're building large-scale systems, e.g. one of the systems we're developing is an overlay network with a globally distributed routing infrastructure that collectively routes 10,000 unicast and multicast requests per second! We use a mixture of technologies such Go, DynamoDB, Redis, Cassandra and Ruby. Check out the http://eng.rightscale.com to see our Engineering Blog.

Job details and application form are at: http://rightscale.applytojob.com/apply/lOWsnI/Senior-Softwar...

We're also looking for a Sr Software Engineer in our Edinburgh (Scotland) office: http://rightscale.theresumator.com/apply/job_20150704202956_...

Or email ali at rightscale.com if you'd like to chat.

RightScale - Santa Barbara - Full time

We're hiring for the following positions: UX Designer, Software Security Engineer, Software Engineer, Production Support Engineer

See http://www.rightscale.com/jobs for more info.

This isn't a direct answer, but for others who are coming to this page and need help on where to start, here is some info on what to do now from RightScale's CTO, it also has a little comparison to what happened in Dec 2011 reboot too (just an interesting side note): http://www.rightscale.com/blog/rightscale-news/aws-reboot-su...

Santa Barbara, California; Edinburgh, Scotland. Full Time.

Check out http://eng.rightscale.com to get a flavour of what we do

Remote: we'll consider but depends on position and candidate

Willing to relocate: depends on the candidate

Technologies: Ruby, Go, Cassandra, MySQL, AWS services... we're a tech company and use a lot of different technologies

Positions: http://www.rightscale.com/jobs

Email: recruiting@rightscale.com

Sound similar to why we said goodbye to Heroku as well: http://blog.planforcloud.com/2013/03/from-paas-to-iaas-how-w...

RightScale, Fulltime in Santa Barbara (CA), Edinburgh (Scotland) or remote

We help enterprises like Samsung, EA Games, Pearson Publishing and Sage deploy and manage their systems on multiple clouds. We launched in 2006 shortly after AWS started, and built the first multi-cloud platform that works with the AWS, Google, Microsoft Azure, Rackspace, OpenStack, CloudStack, VMware... Since then, we've built Cloud Analytics and Self-Service that with our Cloud Management product have thousands of users.

We're looking for:

- Tools Engineer

- Interface Designer

- Back-end engineers, we mainly use Ruby (with Rails and Sinatra), and Go for some of newer services

- Front-end engineers, we mainly use AngularJS

Checkout http://www.rightscale.com/jobs for more info

RightScale, Santa Barbara (CA) and Edinburgh (UK). Full time.

Senior Software Engineer, Back Line Support Engineer, Senior Technical Writer, Marketing Operations Analyst

What cool stuff do you do? We help big-ass enterprises like Samsung, EA Games, Pearson Publishing and Sage deploy and manage their systems on multiple clouds. We launched in 2006 shortly after AWS started, and built the first multi-cloud platform that works with the AWS, Google, Microsoft Azure, Rackspace, OpenStack, CloudStack, VMware... Since then, we've built Cloud Analytics and Self-Service that with our Cloud Management product have thousands of users.

What perks do you offer? Retina MacBook Pro, Catered Monday lunches and snacks, great compensation...

Are you guys well funded? Yes, we have paying customers and $60M of VC funding.

I'm interested what's next? Email your CV (and Github profile if you like) to recruiting@rightscale.com.

Check http://www.rightscale.com/jobs/senior-software-engineer and http://www.rightscale.com/jobs for more info.

Thanks @jacquesm. @phantom_oracle, yes it was my mistake, and that's why I said sorry :)

I looked at the last one, copy-pasted the top bit and posted. Didn't know that we had a whole policy around this thing.

Sorry, I didn't know about https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2391828

@Mods, can you please delete this post?

RightScale - Edinburgh, UK

We're looking for a support engineer to join our Edinburgh team in Codebase: http://www.rightscale.com/jobs/back-line-support-engineer-uk

What cool stuff do you do? We help big-ass enterprises like Samsung, EA Games, Pearson Publishing and Sage deploy and manage their systems on multiple clouds. We launched in 2006 shortly after AWS started, and built the first multi-cloud platform that works with the AWS, Google, Microsoft Azure, Rackspace, OpenStack, CloudStack, VMware... Since then, we've built Cloud Analytics and Self-Service that with our Cloud Management product have thousands of users.

What perks do you offer? Retina MacBook Pro, Catered Monday lunches and snacks, great compensation...

Are you well funded? Yes, we have paying customers and $60M of VC funding.

I'm interested what's next? Email your CV to recruiting@rightscale.com.