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The model employee must live (or pretend to) inside the company's information bubble.

It's an 'open' , for-profit vibed clone of actual open source projects [0]... they do have a source link to their vibed copy buried somewhere on their site, but I don't see any reason to care really.

https://github.com/marconvcm/sony-device-center

What do you mean? It's brand new shiny vibecoded macos copy/clone of an open source project[0][1], and it has 'Open' in the name despite being a completely closed copy of an open source project... and it's at the top of hacker news completely naturally from this first time poster...

I'm impressed, but I guess haters gonna hate.

/a

[0] https://github.com/AmitRajput-Dev/SonyBridge

[1] https://github.com/marconvcm/sony-device-center

Remind me why someone needs consent to create some virtual/digital data/bytes that represent arbitrary things?

Do I need someone's consent to write 'msft' on a piece of paper?

If you mean that this press release amounts to the AI equivalent of the latest Tesla Roadster 'release'... then I guess you're kinda right

In order to claim there is any 'advancement' here requires a baseline of openness which is not met here.

Not insane at all, completely sensical.

The only one pretending this is something that needs to be said, for whatever reason, is you.

amen

a big tech device/platform designed and algorithmically optimized to hit/increase corporate metrics with small kids as the subjects... hard to imagine anything more dystopian

maybe it'll help us raise good docile consumers and workers tho /s

I have an unreleased model that is more capable than those unreleased models (by about a gazillion times)

If you 'route everything to luna' via OpenRouter then you're literally paying 10-20x the subscription rate

Is your purpose to market OpenRouter and OpenAI/Anthropic?

what you're suggesting is like 10x the cost of other options.

pretty much any sub is far better usage/intelligence per $ than openrouter, opencode go is the best one I know of at the moment

The disruption is definitely happening. The main roadblock is that the US tech industry is completely captured by big tech and VCs, who openly collude with each other. But that is temporary and the cracks are starting to show - the aggressive push towards AI regulatory capture is just one obvious sign. Explain to me how DeepSeek, a company with far less access to compute and capital, and starting from behind, is now able to offer LLM inference at roughly 10x the value per dollar of the frontier US AI labs.

> Ask yourself this; do you think Apple would rather give up their engineers, or their brand image? Only one of them is replaceable.

What do you think the 'brand image' is? Is it a pretty design/image, or a cute ad campaign, is it just whatever the marketing/propaganda says? Or is it actual product quality, reliability, efficiency, etc. ? If apple gives up their engineers they have no more brand image at all, and no more products either.

That's true, you do need marketing, sales, etc. But is there any secret sauce to that beyond having existing connections? Not really. AI does that job better than the 99% at this point.

> Yes, these MBAs will be releasing products and starting businesses that were once relegated to only developers.

Show me a single, actually working, profitable tech company built by a non-technical MBA without the need for developers. Until then it's fantasy. I've watched numerous seemingly high-ranking, very successful MBA/marketing people try - it's a complete joke - they need nerds to babysit them 24/7.

> They'll overpay for cloud hosting, completely fail to innovate, abuse their customer relationship, and make much more money than solo devs ever did.

Cool fantasy I guess

AI/LLMs are an amazing tool and a multiplier, but they are far from perfect - it requires technical understanding to use effectively. An experienced software engineer can leverage it 1000x more effectively than a typical corporate MBA NPC. That's all there really is to it.

No they can't. Their only skill is in squeezing profits out of existing products and corporate politics. These people are mostly technically illiterate, and they don't understand the tech market/business well either. Even AI will not enable these people to deliver working, quality code.

Writing code is a very specific and highly technical skill, you cannot just will yourself to do it without many hours of study and practice. Doing business strategy + machiavellianism 101, which is realistically what 99% of these people do, is not a very complicated or technical skill at all, the average high schooler understands these things for the most part, and AI can do it better already.

There are thousands of products and companies out there that were once okay, and did pretty well, after which they got taken over by the MBA/marketing people, and now their products are enshittified, stagnated dogshit, they only exist because of existing customers and connections, and they can be easily outcompeted.

He said 'all about profit', not 'about profit'. There's a difference between building a great, innovative, useful product and making a profit from that vs literally enshittifying/worsening an existing product (or just building total crap that came out of some illiterate MBA's ass in general) and aggressively leaning into marketing, dark patterns narrative control, etc.

These days it seems like most of SV and US tech industry in general is mostly the latter. This is a big reason why US tech companies can't compete with China anymore - VCs and big tech have captured the US market 10 years ago, and have been just squeezing it for profit ever since.

Your knowledge and experience is super valuable. Your bosses and the typical parasites running the typical SV tech company do not have the knowledge and experience you do .

You shouldn't be discouraged just because they don't understand or value your skills and expertise - you can build a product and/or company from the ground up by leveraging your skills and using AI to fill in the rest. They cannot do the same thing.

Time to stop worrying about the fact that you can't serve these clowns and time to start building.

On the plus side, this should allow for more DeepSeek supply for consumers and private sector, and presumably lower prices. Which is great since DeepSeek provides like 10x more value/$ than openai an anthropic.

Cool 'math' but that's not how imaginary numbers work.

Just because anthropic charges absurd consumer API prices, doesn't mean their subscription is a 'subsidy' lmao.

I'm a heavy Claude/anthropic user, I max out my 20x max plan in 1-2 days at this point. The OpenCode Go $40 plan with DeepSeek flash is like 2x the value of the Claude max 20x plan for how much I actually get out of it, for 1/5 the price.

DeepSeek literally like 10x better value than Claude/Anthropic.

Eric Cartman is that you?

Yeah the Claude/anthropic usage is quite arbitrary, I also run through my entire 20x pro plan in 1-2 days. Codex has slightly better usage levels, but is annoying to use for many reasons. DeepSeek flash (direct or via opencode go) is the best value model I've found so far.

100%

If you don't want to have a discussion don't post pointless metrics that you don't even understand.

'experts' lmao. Your entire argument boils down to an appeal to authority fallacy.

The reason that US and its allies/friendlies always score high on these kinds of ratings while their enemies/adversaries always score low is because these institutions and 'experts' are directly funded by and beholden to these countries/interests.

Just look at Russia - it's score is highest in the 90s - the most corrupt and destitute time in its modern history, also happens to be when it was deemed somewhat friendly to US and friends.

Opposite of my experience - openai models, and codex are clearly the slowest (out of 5 different models/harnesses I use on a regular basis).

Nah, it's the best time (if you can). This is the time to spin up your own company/product and steal maximum marketshare from enshititech.