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Yeah, genocide, murder, slavery, etc are not exactly great substitutes for doomscrolling.

I don’t think there is a “central MacOS design philosophy,” at least not anymore.

Again, more evidence that you have thin skin, and that you’re a racist if you are aware of the beliefs we’re discussing here and truly think those beliefs are “fine and valid.” I support everyone’s right to state what they believe, but intolerant beliefs aren’t worthy of respect or good-faith debate.

If one can’t handle the disrespect that comes from being a racist, perhaps publicly proclaiming those beliefs online isn’t the best approach.

And shame on you for defending him.

“Slimy shots” as in simply stating DHH’s self-proclaimed beliefs in plain language? Sounds like you’re easily offended.

The article is very clear and offers links that outline what the author’s issues are with DHH.

I would take Ruby over Python any day of the week and I find Ruby very flexible and elegant. It’s all personal preference.

> In a contemporary interview with Marques Brownlee, Musk said they didn’t currently have the technology and the specs were an extrapolation for what they expected to be available on release.

That’s even worse then, because it was supposed to be released by 2020. Here we are in 2026 and I still don’t think it’s possible to cram 200kwh into a sports car. I take this as an admission straight from the horse’s mouth that either: 1) they were lying and had no intention of shipping the car as specified when it was announced, or 2) they’re completely inept at making predictions about the trajectory of technology core to their products. Both are extremely bad.

This is a completely different car than the one that was announced in 2017. So they cancelled it, and replaced it with a new one, which is likely never going to ship and will serve as a way to prop up whatever merger scam the CEO has cooking in his drug-impaired brain.

> if Tesla ends up selling a clean-sheet sports car called something else by 2036, would that still count? Or are we talking about this specific model with these specs?

Yes, and note that this has already happened: the original Roadster v2 from 2017 never shipped and was replaced with this one.

The original 2nd-gen Roadster reveal claimed a 200kwh battery pack and 600+ miles of range. There were analysts arguing at the time that the state of the art in battery tech could not possibly allow for that much capacity in that size car. This smacks of the same BS that happened with the Cybertruck — the originally announced range/pricing was far, far better than what actually shipped.

There should be legal investigations into this practice, because it’s extremely deceptive.

This is a completely different car from the one that was announced a decade ago and never shipped. And they spent all that time showing off the fact that it can act like a stunt car if you buy the non-street-legal, available-by-invite-only version.

Tesla is an unserious car company, led (for some reason) by a person who supports 1) the destruction of incentives to buy EVs, and 2) the destruction of the climate more generally. I hope the people putting money down on this farce lose it all.

Me: “your comment was extremely weird”

You: repeats the same comment

I hope you get some sleep, or mental health support, or whatever else you might need.

Oh the irony.

Evidently you do. I said goodbye, fascist scum.

Perhaps the person you’re replying to was simply trying to stoop to your level, since you made the extremely weird “spreads his DNA everywhere” comment first. Perhaps this was, to borrow your misused phrase from elsewhere in this thread, the intellectually appropriate response.

Bye, fascist.

> None of those people were murdered by Elon Musk.

Yes, all of them were. I explained how in my post. Your response amounts to “nuh uh.”

> I’m well educated, smart,

Like other fascists on this site, you’re a walking caricature.

I understand. I think that when faced with specific examples that refute my claim, I’d also prefer to shy away from addressing them and instead only reply to the final sentence of the post which was the least important.

You’re not responding to anything I’m actually saying, and your statements are so hyperbolic that it’s not worth continuing in good faith. I’d welcome a good faith conversation if you change your mind.

> Name one of the millions of people he murdered. Just one. It’s funny that you can’t. But you will go on telling huge lies on the internet anyway.

Here are four: Yamah Freeman, Gbessey Kiadu, Ibrahim Koroma, Achol Deng. Elon Musk ran the “agency” that fed USAID “into the wood chipper.” He is therefore responsible for their deaths. This is murder. Please retract your statement.

Edit: here’s a bonus fifth name: Santina Sunday. This article has many paragraphs of detail about how and why she died. https://www.propublica.org/article/kenya-trump-usaid-world-f...

In short, please educate yourself and refrain from posting further fascist talking points until you do so.

Freedom of speech?

You mean like silencing users that use the term “cis” or “cisgender”? [0]

Or banning an account tracking his jet, even after explicitly stating that he was so committed to freedom of speech that he wouldn’t ban that specific account? [1]

Or complying significantly more often with suppression demands from authoritarian governments than the previous management of Twitter did? [2]

From your statements here it appears that you take everything he says at face value. I would strongly encourage you to stop doing that.

[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2023/07/02/elon-mus...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ElonJet?wprov=sfti1#History

[2] https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-or...

> Elon is running multiple companies,

So? Nothing about that is inherently noble.

> spread his DNA and ideas everywhere

Much to my dismay. Most of his ideas have a long track record of being drastically incorrect or dangerous. And he treats his children like shit, so much that at least one of his children wants nothing to do with him. Also “spreads his DNA everywhere” is a really weird way to talk about how many children he has.

> and makes a very real impact on the world every day.

Agreed. He certainly impacted the millions of people he murdered running DOGE.

In a just world, he’d be behind bars for the rest of his pathetic life. But since we don’t live in a just world, I’m trying to do my (admittedly extremely small) part in correcting that.

> And who’s the fascist? The man minding his own business,

This is a hilariously wrong way to describe him. The fascist is the man who sieg heil’ed, twice, in front of a large audience, and then backed it up via every politically-related action he’s taken since then.

> wanting some random guy who made a project to risk aspects of their livelihood to spite Elon Musk because you don't like him is psychopathic.

Speaking only for myself: I agree with the spirit of this statement (perhaps minus the use of the word “psychopathic”).

However, it seems like the author of Nitter wants to continue to engage in this risky activity, and is requesting resources to help. If they ever wish to stop developing Nitter/XCancel, I will absolutely respect that. But assuming they wish to continue, I consider supporting them and doing my part to frustrate a man-child, unrepentant fascist, and murderer of thousands a noble thing to do.

Sam Altman has always been a scummy piece of shit. Company culture comes from the top. If the author only realized that the company is garbage in the last six months, they’ve got some serious introspection to do IMO, and I’m not going to take any of their “concerns” seriously.

Thank you for pointing that out. Pretty scummy if you ask me.

I think you’re confused. My point was that for most of the incidents in the news to date, the “user” is an OpenAI internal team or employee. So yes, the company is responsible.

I’m not a current or former OpenAI employee and I can see from the outside that they’re immoral and unethical enough that I’d never work there in the first place. That’s what I was commenting on. This person is probably set for life, so you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t really take their “concerns” seriously.

Thanks, I agree. Since it wasn’t at all relevant to my point, I’ve removed it from my post.

I agree, and I think the concerns are invalid for completely separate reasons. But it does mean that the writer of the article is morally bankrupt.

That’s true, but people don’t typically say “this Smith & Wesson gun killed someone”; they recognize that the person pulling the trigger is responsible.

With LLMs, at least in the cases of internal/test models doing things they shouldn’t, the people “pulling the trigger” are the board and CEO.

It’s not a personal attack. And it matters because of what the person you’re replying to already said:

> Easy to suddenly find a moral compass when you, your kids and their kids never have to worry about working for money again.

If someone is in this situation, you can safely ignore their hand-wringing about “safety.”