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No, this isn’t what you said. You said that those resistant only view this as a job and don’t love solving problems - this is a completely ridiculous opinion/propaganda.

The world isn’t so black and white. It’s possible to be excited about what AI can help accelerate and simultaneously be resistant to the idea that 100% of software engineering (from premise -> shipped and maintained) can and should be offloaded purely to AI. And more importantly, AI reminds me a lot of leverage - it amplifies the good, but possibly more importantly it really amplifies the bad.

Software engineering is much more than just writing code.

> I have a very hard time taking that offense seriously.

Empathy can be a tough skill to learn, but I think it’s worth it!

> This in particular is a really silly hill to die on,

Stating that people can't love software development or solving problems because they are resistant to AI taking over their entire job is a silly hill to die on?

I really enjoy what I do, and have done, for the past 20 years. When I first wrote code I literally thought I discovered magic. In many ways, AI has re-triggered some of those feelings!

I also really care about building quality software for our customers.

And it infuriates me to no end when I see huge amounts of objectively incorrect code being written by AI, and the developer behind it stating they have no idea what it's doing, or when people say they can't solve a problem because they are out of AI tokens, etc.

But supposedly these are the people who care about solving problems? Not just that - they are the only people who care about solving problems.

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Yeah, it's offensive.

> The ones who are most resistant to it are the ones for whom it has been "just a job", but the ones who love it are the ones who love solving problems.

Wow, what a simplistic, uncalled for view of the world. This is just so ignorantly and offensively incorrect.

Social Security is a really bad example though. It doesn’t support a living wage, and everybody depending on it would have been better off if they could have invested those taxes instead.

This is the “propaganda” sponsored by most leftists, though?

Except not equality - stepping stones. Socialism is supposed to lead to communism, per Marx. That’s not a right wing take, unless you consider Karl Marx a conservative.

I think this is my main hesitation with picking up the Duo on the first release. I have no doubt the build quality is exceptional, but the chance that the apps I use are not well optimized for this new form factor is pretty high in the first year of its release.

I don't think they won't work, but I anticipate oddities to appear for a while, especially for older applications.

Because Anthropic and OpenAI are the primary drivers of the AI space?

“We have built this thing that is so powerful that it will wipe out all jobs ever created. Therefore we are the only thing worth investing in.”

But this is marketing. This is just pre-IPO talk.

Anthropic’s goal is not anything to do with AI, it is purely to generate more profit than any other company.

Securing/lobbying to regulate their competitors through doom talk, or promising that they will bankrupt every other company because AI will “do it all, better than everyone else” is purely for investment purpose.

As long as their incentive is monetary, it’s not unreasonable to believe this is just marketing.

I am absolutely appalled that this type of marketing is allowed. It is so disingenuous.

Am I the only one starting to get annoyed by Bun just due to all the surrounding drama? I was genuinely surprised this was an actual link about an update - my gut inclination opening that was Jarred probably decided to rewrite Bun to JavaScript to stay pure or something like that.

We all are, mostly.

In my experience Sonnet is actually pretty good at coding tasks, at least with Go.

Another AI slop post — so hot these days.

> Energy drinks don't have much caffeine in them

I'm just pulling the most prominent ones at my nearest gas station:

* Celsius: 200mg

* Alani Nu: 200mg

* Rockstar: 160mg

* Monster: 160mg

* Reign: 300mg

* Bang: 300mg

* Red Bull: 80mg

* Ghost: 200mg

* C4: 200mg

* NOS: 160mg

A standard soda can is about 35mg caffeine.

I do not think it's a myth to claim that on average, energy drinks have a high amount of caffeine.

I thought Elon and Trump broke up?

90% of my coworkers are H1B and are basically perpetually terrified of being deported. I completely disagree with your assessment.

> so I think protecting his feelings is not necessary.

No, just the barrage of completely lacking-of-empathy responders need your white-knighting. It’s a good thing you’re here for them.

I have no context of who you are/your position here, but the responses you're getting seem absurd to me.

I just don't understand people placing the blame on you when it should be on your company. Most people in the world are just trying to keep their job - you did it. It wasn't something illegal, it was something that if you didn't do, you would have risked your job and then someone else would have done it anyway.

> If your company offers an FSA, it's asking to make a gamble on how much medical needs you'll have in the next 1 year.

Conflating this with gambling is dishonest. I'll grant you that I've always viewed the way FSA is structured is weird, but this is absolutely not gambling unless you're completely unaware.

If you have any regular, annual medical expenses that are out of pocket, or plan to purchase any of the very wide variety of items that are eligible for FSA (e.g. gym equipment, many foods, glasses, contacts, etc. that might not be fully covered), then you can estimate this with exceptional accuracy.

This is not the same as playing roulette.

You're misinterpreting what I said. Being dense, honestly.

The start of this thread was primarily people saying they were taking their money elsewhere - and then suggesting Proton, whose CEO was in the hot seat for praising the Republican party. It makes no sense to have such a violent reaction to something like this and not consider that competitors could be similar.

The reality is that in general, your money is always going to somebody you don't want it to go to.

Have you ever considered purchasing a calculator?

This is a bizarre thread.

People are surprised that a privacy-oriented businessman is right-wing is very strange.

"Millions" in the title is also misleading in this context - it's millions in Swedish Kronor, which is roughly $500K USD. A lot, but the title seems intentionally misleading.

I've also never really understood the cycle of boycotting things because you don't like how an individual spends their own money. Almost every company will employ people who have values you severely disagree with, and put money toward those causes. And turning to Proton as the alternative is... a choice?

> 1 billion isn't a thousand times a million.

What?

> bringing US workers rights up to the bar set by China

I don't strive for 996. Is this really the bar we want to meet?

> unless we figure out how to make developers 2x, 5x, 10x as productive on stuff that matters, this isn't going to play out well.

Simple - you make them work 2x, 5x, or 10x more hours.

Why wouldn't Claude just impose this same loop in the code it writes - or better, write better code before it needs such review?

Same! I am specifically left handed for pool and cannot figure out how to play it right handed - absolutely zero coordination.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some plan to generate a subscription model for appliances.

I tried this service a few weeks ago, and I commend the goal - but there were a few issues I ran into:

1. There are many interactions I just could not get to work. I may have done something wrong, but in general, I have the perspective that most products should "just work" if it's as simple as clicking a button or directing something. In this case, I'm tangibly talking about the Browser feature, and the Canvas feature. In my account, I tried many times to have OpenClaw use the Browser to access a website and send me a screenshot, and it regularly reported the Browser was inaccessible, even though I had enabled it via Klaus UI. Secondly, I asked it to write certain reports to the Canvas as HTML pages that I could review - the entries would show up as files I could click on, but the files themselves were always empty. 2. OpenClaw with tokens is insanely expensive - I blew through the $15 tokens in a matter of a day.

For the first, my guess is I misconfigured something, but it's really difficult to identify what is wrong. My expectation was that I could prompt via Telegram to configure anything and everything, but some link was missing. Although I am a technical person, my expectation was that I would not need to muck around via `ssh` to figure out where my files ended up.

For the latter - and more broadly - OpenClaw is not well understood for most, and I think they will be caught off guard just how expensive it is. $15 in tokens is not a lot with how inefficient OpenClaw can be. My suggestion would be:

1. Pre-configure OpenClaw with already extremely memory-efficient rules and skills. 2. Provide clear guidance/documentation on ideal agent setup with different models as necessary. I think OpenRouter attempts to achieve this pretty well, but you are providing a layer on top of OpenRouter that may not be obvious to less-well-versed people. 3. Batteries-included options should "just work" - I felt I wasted a lot of tokens just figuring out how to get the thing to do simple tasks for me.

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A lot of the notes I made are less about your product and what you've achieved, and more to do with OpenClaw. However, you've achieved one major milestone - which is the one-click setup of OpenClaw. But if your target demographic is the less technically inclined folks that want to be able to play with the bleeding edge of AI practices, I think your platform needs to guide users to how to actually use this thing, and become useful right away.

It may even be beneficial to showcase extremely clear workflows for users to get started and sell why they even want OpenClaw.

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Anyway, kudos on the release! It is not easy to ship and you've done that hard bit! I bid you good luck on the next phase!