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asdf_··on Introducing the TensorFlow Research Cloud
Sure, no argument there. For Google, producing and using TPUs, is probably cheaper than buying nvidia hardware.
asdf_··on Introducing the TensorFlow Research Cloud
The interconnect hardware is present on the dgx-1 board.

The point of my previous comment is that it doesn't make sense to compare an entire TPU module (containing 4x TPUs) to a V100 board.

The closest comparison to a TPU module (with 4x TPUs) would be a dgx-1 board, which contains the nvlink bus that you mention, but also contains 8x V100 boards, hence why in my previous post I said you should compare the compute performance of a Volta DGX-1 (8x V100s) to 2 TPU modules (8x TPUs).

At the end of the day, it is simple, in a given area of space, you can get more compute performance from provisioning that area with V100s (in the form of using dgx-1s) versus provisioning it with TPUs (in the form of using TPU modules).

asdf_··on Introducing the TensorFlow Research Cloud
A single V100 board is vastly smaller than a TPU module with 4 TPU chips.

The closest comparison in terms of size would be 1 Volta DGX-1 (8x V100s) compared to 2 TPU modules (8x TPU2 chips).

Volta DGX-1: https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/Data-Cent...

TPU Module: https://storage.googleapis.com/gweb-uniblog-publish-prod/ima...

And for completeness, this is the size of a single V100: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/34446...

You can see that 8x V100s are still more computationally dense than 8x TPU2 chips. Density is a very important factor in datacenter design.

asdf_··on Introducing the TensorFlow Research Cloud
A single V100 board is vastly smaller than a TPU module with 4 TPU chips.

The closest comparison in terms of size would be 1 Volta DGX-1 (8x V100s) compared to 2 TPU modules (8x TPU2 chips).

Volta DGX-1: https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/Data-Cent...

TPU Module: https://storage.googleapis.com/gweb-uniblog-publish-prod/ima...

And for completeness, this is the size of a single V100: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/34446...

You can see that 8x V100s are still more computationally dense than 8x TPU2 chips. Density is a very important factor in datacenter design.

asdf_··on Google AI Cloud TPUs
A single chip is only 45 TFLOPS. It is 180 TFLOPs per module (4x TPU chips): https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/googl...
asdf_··on Introducing the TensorFlow Research Cloud
Google's 180 teraflop number is for a module, which contains 4 TPU chips. Meaning each TPU is 45 teraflops. See: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/googl...
asdf_··on Introducing the TensorFlow Research Cloud
It is actually 45 teraflops per TPU2 chip and 180 teraflops for a module (4x chips): https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/05/googl...

V100 is 120 teraflops of tensor ops per chip: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/nvidia-tesla-v100-gp...