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barrell··on My AI skeptic friends are all nuts
This blog post makes me actively want to use something besides fly. Putting aside the massive condescension in the article…

… most of the code you write is tedious boilerplate? What do you do all day? I can honestly say the most tedious code I write is migrations, because I have to edit three files. I do this like once a week. It would take way longer to explain to an ai what to do than just do it myself.

… you run the ai on your procrastination and as a result do heads down work? Seriously? 1, programming with AI is like playing a slot machine. It keeps you hooked just on the verge of winning the jackpot for far longer than the tedious task would have distracted you. And let’s say a good agentic case - it runs for 30 minutes before it’s done. That’s not even enough time to “boot up” a serious problem, and your already having to put it aside to go check the work you yourself are saying is mediocre? And you’re advocating to run multiple of these? Even the most ardent vibe covers I know talk about babysitting the agents. How is this unlocking deep work time in any way shape or form?

… craft is relagated to hobbies? I guarantee you, this person loves Linear. It was probably written on a MacBook. This whole “we solve real problems” BS is just a cop out because being great is hard.

… mediocre code is good code? All code is a liability. If you generate 10 times the code, and are admitting it’s the lowest bar of quality possible, it is at a minimum 10x the liability on your shoulders.

… letting LLMs refactor your tests? Serious question, who actually does this? Because I would LOVE to have LLMs write tests for me. I have tried every. single. time. I need to write something that needs a lot of tests to ask LLMs for tests for TWO YEARS, and not once have I ever used a single test it generates. It generates worse tests than it does code, and the last thing I want is 42 asserts in 8 tests across 600 LoC that nobody understands that poorly tests what should have been 2 asserts in 2 tests in 12 lines of code.

barrell··on Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2025)
Yes, if I have to read AI applications I might as well enjoy it
barrell··on Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2025)
Will do! I’m hoping for some good ones this time :)
barrell··on Ask HN: Who is hiring? (June 2025)
Phrasing.app | CTO | EU Remote

I've spent the last 18 months iterating on Phrasing, a language learning app for polyglots. It's finally reached a stable point, and we're starting to get Daily Active Users. I've been using it every day for over a month now to learn over a dozen languages, and have been blown away at my progress.

However, I've really reached the limit of what one engineer can do alone. I'm looking for someone to help me make it go brrr. Someone who would love to iterate on our in-house sync engine, make our monolithic postgres database purr, and wouldn't be scared of a little machine learning.

The product is built in Elixir on the backend, ClojureScript on the front-end. There are no experience requirements so long as you're committed, capable, and hungry.

I'm really trying to do something different with Phrasing. No investors, no hyper-scaling, no enshittification - just a relentless pursuit of mastery and a delightful product.

If any of this is speaking to you, get in touch at hackers [at] phrasing [dot] app.

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barrell··on The UI future is colourful and dimensional
Oh I’m not arguing for minimalism or all text uis - I agree with the article in the sense that modern uis are boring and we need something fresh. It just seems like a very shoddy example to run a victory lap with. Design is subjective, but I don’t think many people would see that and think “yes this looks finished / is the future”. Which seems to fly in the face of the article and the point of including it
barrell··on The UI future is colourful and dimensional
I find it very interesting the praise Material Design Expressive gets. Perhaps it's just because I've always been on iOS, but every iteration of Material Design seems so much more foreign to me. I'm not really criticizing it, but personally I find it to be extremely confusing to visually process.

It feels a lot like language divergence. iOS and Android started at the same place (same language), then became different accents, different dialects, and (soon/now) different languages.

barrell··on The UI future is colourful and dimensional
Surprised there aren't more comments about the game example. I found it so bad - takes up so much space, provides no value, color schemes all over the place, every "icon" had wildly different rotations/perspectives.

Was it a little fun? Sure? Maybe? It was cute for a moment or two. But "near production ready"?

barrell··on Spaced repetition systems have gotten better
If you don’t mention an item, it is skipped (no grade). If you can’t remember an item, but you recall learning it, you describe it and it will be marked as fail. At the end there is a screen with all the words and you can change any from skip to fail if you truly forgot it.

Any skipped items are then prioritized in the flashcards/cloze completion/shadowing modalities.

AFAIK free recall is not very high signal as to which words you know and which ones you don’t. Skipped words I just as often forget about cards because they’re so easy as I do because they’re so hard. It is however an incredibly effective exercise to cement your recall (and in my apps case, a good way to skip a good portion of your reviews in a day)

barrell··on Spaced repetition systems have gotten better
I implemented free recall into FSRS pretty easily. Granted, it’s only for language learning, and I have it set up to work in a free recall friendly way (you don’t learn cards, you learn actual words and morphemes) but it’s been working for a few weeks now. I’m working on a product video atm, but once that’s done my next task (sometime this week) is to clean up the UI and merge it to master.

I almost never see someone talk about free recall so I was too excited to see it mentioned not to comment

barrell··on Spaced repetition systems have gotten way better
Where do we find more about what you’re working on? :)
barrell··on Spaced repetition systems have gotten way better
I would say the implementations are time optimized, over the others. I’m building a language learning application, and have put in a lot of effort to make sure that the Spaced Repeition is motivation-optimized.

It’s centered around your performance and review times, to make sure you aren’t struggling to much; no due dates to avoid Anki slogs; gamified with some internal mechanics; dopaminergically influenced with aspects of randomness.

Spaced Repetition is just an equation (SM2 is laughable simple), but a lot of applications just slap a UI on it and call it a day, but that’s not the only way to use it!

barrell··on LibreLingo – FOSS Alternative to Duolingo
I’m very interested in Sanskrit, and working on an application to learn it (and many other languages).

If you have any interest in app based review (not courses - I specifically try to work with input) I would love to get feedback on the Sanskrit experience.

I posted a bunch of comments about it in the past few days, I don’t want to take over another apps thread, but there are so many cool languages being learned here

barrell··on LibreLingo – FOSS Alternative to Duolingo
I really don’t want to be doing self promotion in someone else’s thread, but I have Tagalog support on https://phrasing.app. I just posted some demo videos this morning in comments if you check out my profile
barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
I would have to know more about your circumstances before I could make genuine recommendations. But as an autodidactal programmer, I can serve as somewhat of an authority on this manner ;) The value I get out of the platform is:

1. I can study all my languages on the same platform. For my, having studied 30+ languages (note: not claiming to speak them), I just want to “do my languages”. I can study dialectal Arabic, minority languages, archaic languages, and the major languages, all in a nice consistent and (if I can say so myself) beautiful UI.

2. Everything is heavily annotated with all the information you could ever need. This means that I add flashcards, and when I’m learning them, I have the gender, cases, tenses, agglutination, phonetics, translations, audio, conjugation/declention tables, character breakdowns, mutations, idioms, multilword expressions, roots, etymology, etc etc (the list really does go on) at my fingertips. This means I just go through my flashcards, and when I have a question, I get an answer. If I have more questions, I have a context aware chat integrated. For me, this is the autodidactal dream come true.

3. Personally, I really love SRS. I also really hate SRS. If I have to study the words “dog”, “walk”, & “morning” - and I have a sentence “I walk my dog in the morning”, I just want to study that one one sentence and be done with it. Also, I really want to just be able to play audio sentences and listen to them while cooking/cleaning/walking my dog. Or do a free recall sessions, write down everything I remember from yesterday, and skip those reviews today (it’s more effective than SRS anyways).

Lastly, WRT to creating your own flashcards: You can still create flashcards manually on Phrasing - I agree the act of creating flashcards is beneficial, I’m not trying to take that away from anyone - but I’m not sure I buy it’s the highest leverage way for one to spend their time. At least for me, it definitely is not. I would rather skip that (admittedly beneficial) step, and move onto the next step. YMMV

It’s really hard to narrow the list down to three, I have a hundred things I want to say, but I’ll leave it here. Due to popular demand, I recorded a few live demos today so you can see it in action:

https://x.com/barrelltech/status/1917093849219895715?s=61

Higher quality demos will come in time!

Let me know your thoughts, I’m happy to dive deeper into any of this (I mean I could talk about Phrasing for literally days on end)

EIDT: s/extinct/archaic

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
Unfortunately I do not have a windows device to test with. I have a suspicion as to what’s causing it (background blurs) and I plan to get rid of it this week
barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
I made some quick live videos today:

https://x.com/barrelltech/status/1917093849219895715?s=61

Please excuse the video quality, there will be better paced/audio/scripted demos soon!

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
I made some quick live videos today:

https://x.com/barrelltech/status/1917093849219895715?s=61

Please excuse the video quality, there will be better paced/audio/scripted demos soon!

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
I made some quick live videos today:

https://x.com/barrelltech/status/1917093849219895715?s=61

Please excuse the video quality, there will be better paced/audio/scripted demos soon!

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
I made some quick live videos today:

https://x.com/barrelltech/status/1917093849219895715?s=61

Please excuse the video quality, there will be better paced/audio/scripted demos soon!

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
I made some quick live videos today:

https://x.com/barrelltech/status/1917093849219895715?s=61

Please excuse the video quality, there will be better paced/audio/scripted demos soon!

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
I made some quick live videos today:

https://x.com/barrelltech/status/1917093849219895715?s=61

Please excuse the video quality, there will be better paced/audio/scripted demos soon!

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
I am the first to admit that the UI does not make sense to people who have not seen it in use. I have done some user onboarding sessions where you just “let them ask questions and click” and it goes terribly if it’s any consolation, I have never gotten that feedback after showing people how to use it (quite the opposite actually!)

Wrt to the expression, all expressions created today succeeded, so if you’re still seeing a progress bar let me know as that’s a bug. It’s possible something failed with the live updates, or it does take several minutes to create an expression (depending on servers, it can take up to 10 minutes at times, although the typical timing is 2-4 minutes depending on the expression)

If you click on any of the review methodologies, it will start reviewing any of your successful expression. From there, the experience should be a lot more explorer-friendly :)

What it’s doing is: analyzing the sentence, splitting it into phrases, aligning it across all languages, tagging all of the gender/case/tense/etc, researching pronunciation, generating audio, aligning the audio, prioritizing the words (across several axes), and generation explanations/dictionary for each individual word

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
Block rendering errors on the media page is new to me. I will look into it.

The reference language error should not be shown (I mean it’s not incorrect, but there is a “no expressions error” that should take precedence).

A video is coming :) I didn’t expect so much interest from a comment in this thread. If you get in touch, I can walk you through it personally, otherwise check back in a couple weeks and there will be a video overview.

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
And fwiw, I've added the languages to the marketing page now in the FAQ section. I'll add a more prominent section in the coming weeks!
barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
Thanks for the feedback! I agree with you completely.

1. I just started the marketing website a few weeks ago, and if you can believe it, I didn't readily have that information. One of my tasks last week was to compile a list of languages that could work, write some tests for all of the languages, and get a list of supported languages. I have that list now, I just need to put it on the marketing page.

2. As mentioned in other comments, I'm working on a video. I'm preferring to fix glaring issues before making the video, although at this point I'm verrrrrrry close. I have started scripting it, but it takes a lot of time to make a good video (1-2 full days if I don't want to edit it).

Your feedback is completely valid, and they're both reasons why I'm not really marketing the product yet. This thread seemed like a good middle ground though as having some people using all the languages would be really helpful. Also, I've genuinely been loving using it and want to share.

It's just me working on it, so these things are coming, but everything takes a while! Hopefully these didn't sour you on the project permanently :)

EDIT: And yes, it supports Hungarian :)

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
Start by creating some expressions ("create" in the nav bar) and you should be able to play around with it. If you want to learn more, please get in touch. As mentioned elsewhere, I'll be adding a video tutorial soon (probably not this week, but sometime next week if all goes well).

Would love to get feedback on the old languages! It's been really good for the minority languages I'm learning

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
It does really well, 95% of the time. The application was built to jump in at any levels - find a movie you want to watch, align the subtitles, see the most important words, create expressions with words you don't know, and the SRS should focus on the words most important to you.

For my Dutch (which was probably once a high B2, now probably a low B1) I only use the audio review when walking my dog or cooking. It plays the audio of the cards in a playlist, so I practice hearing and repeating them.

It's not so self serve at the moment, but if you get in touch I can get you up and running.

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
Oh no, the website is brand new, it should be working everywhere. I'll have to dig up an older android, I should have one somewhere.

Languages below, if you know their alpha 3 code. Currently having some issues with Thai and Zulu though, so they're temporarily disabled until I have time to fix them.

I have not ~tested~ verified it for Latvian, I would be curious to hear your thoughts. It has been working pretty well for Maltese, Albanian and Macedonian though, which should be lower resource than Latvian!

As mentioned elsewhere, the first time user experience is abysmal. If you reach out though we can hop on a call and get you set up - or in a few weeks I'll have a video done and up. In the meantime, you should be able to create an expression (in the nav bar for desktop and mobile) fairly intuitively.

afr, amh, ara, ara-are, ara-bhr, ara-dza, ara-egy, ara-irq, ara-jor, ara-kwt, ara-lbn, ara-lby, ara-mar, ara-omn, ara-qat, ara-sau, ara-syr, ara-tun, ara-yem, asm, aze, bel, ben, bos, bul, bxr, cat, ces, chu, cop, cym, dan, deu, ell, eng, est, eus, fao, fas, fil, fin, fra, fro, gla, gle, glg, glv, got, grc, guj, hbo, heb, hin, hrv, hsb, hun, hyw, iku, ind, isl, ita, jav, jpn, kan, kat, kaz, khm, kir, kmr, kor, lao, lat, lav, lij, lit, ltc, lzh, mal, mar, mkd, mlt, mon, msa, mya, myv, nan, nep, nld, nno, nob, ori, orv, pan, pcm, pol, por, por-bra, por-prt, pus, qaf, qpm, ron, rus, san, sin, slk, slv, sme, som, spa, spa-arg, spa-bol, spa-chl, spa-col, spa-cri, spa-cub, spa-dom, spa-ecu, spa-esp, spa-gnq, spa-gtm, spa-hnd, spa-mex, spa-nic, spa-pan, spa-per, spa-pri, spa-pry, spa-slv, spa-ury, spa-usa, spa-ven, sqi, srp, sun, swa, swe, tam, tel, tha, tur, uig, ukr, urd, uzb, vie, wol, wuu, yue, zho, zht, zul

EDIT: I have tested it for Latvian, I know it technically works. I however have not had any Latvian speakers review it's quality

barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
So much of this stemmed from me wanted to learn French & Italian by watching archer :D
barrell··on Ask HN: What are you working on? (April 2025)
Agreed. I’m getting close to a video to put on the landing page, probably some time next week.

The first time user experience is really bad, but the app itself makes a lot of sense once you see it in action. Feel free to get in touch with me (there are several methods listed when you log in) and I can give you a personal introduction!

If not then check back in a few weeks for a cool video :)

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