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barrell··on Voxtral 3
I’ve been using mistral-large-3 a tremendous amount. Price/speed/quality ratio was the best I could find. Been using the mistral-large-4 now since it came out for a few things, and while it’s not price competitive for the quality, it is really good. I’ve replaced a lot of my browser-based-chat-ui-llm-usage with mistral since it launched.
barrell··on DeepSeek-v4.1-Flash-1017
To me this implies they continued the training run for 4.1 and it improved. A 4.2 would imply they changed something about how it’s trained/how inference works, and a 5.0 would be a major update (who knows what would have changed).

This is just my headcanon though.

barrell··on Sharing AI progress in mathematics
The letter counting issue is due to tokenization. And most models still get this wrong often enough, even with reasoning. Probably less so on strawberry given how prevalent it is, and less so than without reasoning, but this not a historical issue. It’s becoming less of one though.
barrell··on Mistral Large 4
That is the promotional price, after which it doubles :(
barrell··on Dots: Always-on agents
I have been waiting for the next generation of mistral models for so long now. They were supposed to come out this summer… I hope the delay is because they’re making something better, not just because they’ve fallen too far behind.

Mistral models were the best for my use case when they came out, but they’re mostly almost a year old now. Hard to keep justifying using them, especially with all the price cuts this year on other models.

barrell··on When did Google get so weird?
> are you ready to just walk away

Many comments, but I'm surprised no one has mentioned the ease and quickness LLMs have to advise you to leave relationships. Doesn't matter the context, how little you tell them, or how close the person is, an LLM is always ready to drop them at the tip of a hat.

It's weird enough chatbots try to be your friend. Doubly weird that the search engine tries to be your friend. The downright dystopian part is how often they tell you to leave your real friends.

barrell··on What About Rails?
I’m building a language learning application [1]. It uses spaced repetition, built upon FSRS, an open source algorithm.

I’ve spent the last three years tweaking away at this algorithm. There are so many little details that have had to come together to make it an enjoyable experience. For example, take the one problem of balancing multiple language: What is the best way to balance multiple languages? How should you switch between them, and how often? What happens if you are over performing in one language and underperforming in another? What happens if you have more reviews in one language than another that isn’t in line with your priorities? How do you deal with competing learning speeds and language priorities? Spiky review burdens? What happens when you change your language priorities?

This is probably the most trivial part of the algorithm, and it took years of trial and error and dozens of iterations to get it to feel right. It requires knowing about SRS, the FSRS algorithm, language learning principles, and even then tons of experimentation, trial and error, and hundreds of days of daily usage.

I’ve asked LLMs every step of the way what to do. I’ve probably taken <1% of the advice I was given. Just asking an LLM “build an SRS app that balances multiple languages” would produce a result, but one that would definitely be terrible to use, and probably would end up slowing you down, not speeding you up. Explaining to it any of the issues that you would come across when using it will likely suggest to changes that will only make things worse, based on the thousands of terrible ideas I’ve seen confidently produced.

The hard part of a product is not the idea, but the experience of using it. The valueable work is normally not in the big feature specs, but the hundreds of little paper cuts that have all been smoothed over. The time saved is not because you don’t have to code it, but is from not having to become an expert in several different fields.

[1] https://phrasing.app

barrell··on I am done with this shit
I agree artisan can be a bit pretentious, but calling someone an artisan != calling someone pretentious, whereas calling someone a craftsman (to some people) == calling someone blue collar, someone who works in the crafts/went to craft school.
barrell··on I am done with this shit
“Unskilled” is quite literally in the definition of tinkerer. It explicitly implies a lack of mastery.
barrell··on Gemini 3.8 text-to-speech
The first <sigh> does sound a lot like a moan. OP linked to the timestamp so I missed it when it first played. I was also confused but on second playback I heard the first <sigh> and also thought wtf.

I would not want that in my product.

barrell··on I am done with this shit
Depends. If you’re using is disparagingly, then yes, it is a pejorative.

For example from the original analogy, if you told an entrepreneur that because they didn’t use AI, they were not an entrepreneur, but instead “unskilled” or a “beginner”, that would be disparaging; pejorative.

barrell··on I am done with this shit
> I can't speak for other products, but on the type of features I work on, AI is blatantly incompetent

I do chat with the web interfaces of LLMs quite a bit as my workflow. I’m always baffled by how rarely it arrives at the correct solution.

I pose a question with code snippets, it gives me some incorrect answer. I pose a better question, and it gives me another wrong answer. Wash rinse repeat several times; not until the LLM gets the right answer, but until I pose the question specific enough that I can answer it myself.

I do find this loop of question refinement quite beneficial, but man it makes me terrified of vibe coded applications. 9/10 times the LLM doesn’t even get in the ballpark of the problem, let alone the solution.

barrell··on I am done with this shit
The definition of tinkerer is “An unskilled person who tries to fix or mend”. Someone making a slack channel with a diminuative moniker does not change the meaning of the word.

You would not want a surgeon who says that they’ve tinkered around with surgery. You would not want a pilot who says they’re tinkered around with piloting.

Synonyms are quite literally beginner; dilettante; novice; pretender; uninitiate.

barrell··on I am done with this shit
Tinkering is more or less synonymous with dabbling, which is used more these days. Synonyms with tinkerer would be amateur, hobbiest, dabbler. There’s definitely an implied interest in how things work, but also strongly implies that one is not serious about what they’re doing.

More in line with your definition would be artisan or craftsman; although fwiw craftsman can have a negative slant in modern (American) English as some people use it in lieu of blue-collar workers.

barrell··on I am done with this shit
The bias in this comparison is insane. “Tinkerer” is a pejorative, normally used to downplay one’s (own) ability or impact. It’s often used to mean “unserious” or “amateur”.

The same comparison could be said the other way around: there are entrepreneurs, who care deeply about the product, inside and out; and scammers, who don’t care about the problem itself or the beauty of a a neat solution, but only the sales of the end product.

Entrepreneurs currently are in hell, and a scammers are in heaven.

I don’t think either is more apt or more offensive, they just appeal to whichever side of the fence your on.

barrell··on I am done with this shit
I don’t freelance anymore, so I can’t give any freelancing advice. Although freelancing has always been fraught with offshoring, price arbitraging, and generally lower quality (not saying all freelancing, just that it was an issue when I was freelancing a decade ago).

I’m sure LLMs have only made it worse, possibly pushing it over an edge where hand coding as a freelancer is not viable. I do not know.

Personally, I tell myself that we’re in the lowest of the low at the moment. Either AI will get substantially better, or it will get substantially worse. The amount of debt the industry is loaded up with is not sustainable. Something is going to have to crack. I expect in another 2 years for things to “settle down” on some side of the fence, although which side I do not know.

My quipy advice though is to build something for yourself. Be the boss that doesn’t require AI. We need more builders behind products, more indie products built because they’re cool and the founder is passionate about the problem; not more business types and cash grabs.

That’s all easier said than done though I know.

barrell··on I am done with this shit
Idk about that. I work for myself and I cannot stand coding with LLMs. Even if it were faster (I have only noticed slowdowns long term when using them), the experience of arguing with a slot machine is far more stressful and soul-sucking than even the gnarliest bug.

Yes coorporate “ship as fast as possible” is draining, but that doesn’t mean LLC coding isn’t also to blame.

barrell··on Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?
Same. I miss the excitement around programming. New languages, new tricks, weird hacks, odd projects.

I have little to no interest in AI coding - I try it every couple months but always regret it, git reset, and go back to coding by hand.

It feels quite lonely these days. The general energy and enthusiasm from hn was a big source of motivation, or maybe community. Now using hn feels quite isolating.

I do see the occasional post about going back to hand coding though, and their frequency seems to be on the rise, so hopefully that correction continues

(I don’t need to see no AI, to each their own, just would be nice to see an equal amount of hand coding content one day)

barrell··on How accurate have Ed Zitron's AI skeptic predictions been?
Yeah personally I think he is right about a lot of the current state of affairs. I think he has a decent grasp of the situation despite being incredibly biased.

His predictions though? I don’t think I’ve ever read anything from him to get his read on how things will play out.

Just because one makes the wrong predictions does not mean that the data used to make them was wrong. A lot of people seem to dismiss his reporting because of his takeaways

barrell··on “It works better in the app”
I’m not sure how that’s a justification. If you want to app-wall the turn by turn directions, that would be one thing. The fact that turn-by-turn directions is better on mobile doesn’t rationalize lying about being unable to show photos, and auto opening the App Store three times every time you want to search for an address somewhere
barrell··on “It works better in the app”
Idk Google Maps is pretty bad. Clicking on the search bar force opens the App Store, and trying to load photos does the same and straight up lies to you saying it’s only available in the app. But if you scroll down to the second carousel of images it loads fine in web.
barrell··on Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra
I don't really think it's all that much about macOS. I think it more has to do with the state of web development - claude.com or chat.com or grok.com all can use up to 5GB of RAM as an idle webpage in the background regardless of browser. Most apps these days seem to be electron apps which can fire off multiple 4+ GB node processes doing who knows what.

I think most true native apps don't have these issues. Unfortunately there is very little incentive to build on the macOS platform these days, which is where I point more of the finger at Apple. UX, UI, & DX are all quite a bit worse for Mac native.

barrell··on OpenRouter is joining Stripe
Idk I'm too burned by the lemonsqueezy acquisition to ever trust stripe's stewardship again
barrell··on Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra
M1 Pro 2021 16GB RAM as well.

However, I live with Activity Monitor open at all times. The computer constantly grinds to a halt, and I have to force quit apps at least 10 times per day.

Not really Apple's fault though, just most apps use around 4GB of RAM these days even when they're idle. Some use upwards of 16GB.

I've watched the computer slowly get obsoleted over time, not because the hardware is too old, but because software just get's worse every year.

barrell··on OpenRouter is joining Stripe
Awesome will check this out. EUrouter is too cost prohibitive for me, and now that open router has been acquired by stripe it’s only a matter of time until it’s unusable
barrell··on "No, I swear I wrote this."
Depends on what’s being written, and who the audience is. Anything of any length would be hard to simulate in a way that would fool an author - writing has a certain flow to it. A cadence. The editing and restructuring, deleting of words, typos you don’t catch until some random reread, rephrasing of sections because you want to use the original phrasing later in the piece.

Could you simulate something be typed? Trivially. Could you simulate something be drafted? Honestly, even if you wanted to put in all that time and effort, I’m not even sure LLMs are sophisticated enough to send the logical drafts, loops and edits that would pass a writers sniff test

barrell··on Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model
There is really ample analysis pointing to inference not being profitable, look at anything Ed Zitron has reported.
barrell··on Previewing GPT‑5.6 Sol: a next-generation model
Also can confirm gpt-5.4-nano was unable to even keep up with 4.1-mini. Had to move off of OpenAI once 4.1-mini was retired
barrell··on If you are asking for human attention, demonstrate human effort
To claim there was amazing progress in the past therefore there will be amazing progress in the future is an inductive fallacy.

And as someone who gets dozens if not hundreds of AI generated emails I have to go through every day, it is _incredibly_ easy to spot which ones are AI generated and which are human written.

By its nature AI generated content is statistically consistent, the narrative equivalent of monotone speech. I don’t know anyone that can’t spot it a mile away at this point, and the more people are confronted with slop, the more attuned they become to it.

barrell··on If you are asking for human attention, demonstrate human effort
I think it’s safe to say that this will not be consensus. Personally, I am getting increasingly (irrationally) angry at AI generated content. AI generated art quite literally makes me nautious. I mean an actual, physical reaction where I feel queasy.

I know I’m not the only one who feels this way, and notice more and more people reporting the same. Several of my non-technical

AI generated content is bland and soulless. There’s only so much bland and soulless most people can take in their life before they start to get fed up.

When everything feels the same, nothing is interesting anymore.

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