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Do not agree. Government everywhere makes mistakes under emergencies. Just look at past responses to hurricanes in the US and the current wildfire in Australia. Maybe you could say every government is incompetent. But the fact is that China reported the cases very early to WHO, get the genes mapped very quickly, and decisively locked down Hebei. So I would say so far China has shown competence and resolve, against a tough virus.

Agree that markets selling live animals should be banned or at least monitored more strictly. Do not think the other two points are relevant. Regarding cities, if you look at Chinese society and economy, urbanization is a very positive force that contributed hugely to people's wellbeing, including health. Also BTW Chinese cities are probably the safest cities in the world. Regarding hukou, it limits access to education and house/car buying, much more than healthcare access. Actually a lot of rural residents routines go to big cities to get healthcare service.

Do not agree. It is like saying doctors work only to earn money. The fact is that China is helping itself and other countries at the same time.

WHO clearly does not recommend travel bans. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/30-01-2020-statement-on... : The Committee does not recommend any travel or trade restriction based on the current information available.

It is very much possible that this virus does, in the end, spread to most corners of the world. However, the fact is that by locking down Hubei, China contributed to the fight against the virus by delaying the spread of the virus greatly. So China is to be applauded for doing this.

Calm discussion is good. I was wrong that people were killing dozens every month. It is more like mass shootings involving 9 or more people are happening once per month on average.

I would still maintain my point that personal safety-wise, China is pretty good by today's standard.

According to the source, the shootings on the following days have 9 or more injuries or deaths in 2019: Jan 15 (12), May 7 (9), May 18 (9), May 25 (9 and 10), May 31 (13).

So obviously I was wrong that people were killing DOZENS every month. It is more like mass shootings involving 9 or more people are happening ONCE PER MONTH on average.

Thank god things are better than I thought!

It is a long game.

They will have a lot to tackle in 2019 and 2020. This is a sad story, if they are targeted for no wrongdoing. But in the longrun, they should be mostly fine. Moreover, it is foreseeable that these events help Huawei accelerate their chip and operating system businesses, because there will be a lot more incentive for Chinese government and companies to promote Huawei's ecosystem.

The information in the article is vague. It could be just them selling equipment to the government or it could be security related. US tech companies also routinely work with spy agencies if that's something.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-d...

Fist, Huawei will be mostly fine. They have the largest consumer market called China to them. Second, the notion that a company could be "independent" from the government of the countries that they operate in is hard-to-define at best. Google and Microsoft immediately shut down business with Huawei following Trump's order, without concrete evidence that Huawei had done anything wrong. Huawei is just operating under the laws of China, and also US, EU. They are not so different from the likes of Google, Apple, and Microsoft. All this is a tragedy for the 200 thousand Huawei employees and their families, to see the company they built with hard work getting ruined. And if China retaliates, it will create more tragedies for US companies, their employees and families.

Right on spot.

Is there proof that any of what you said is true? The Huawei people I know are all working super hard to create high-quality products for consumers and enterprises. This, as far as I know, is a good thing for our world.