Cost of tokens is NOT a problem unless you have a codebase with hundreds of person-years of effort. Not many people do.
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Cost of tokens is NOT a problem unless you have a codebase with hundreds of person-years of effort. Not many people do.
And, so what? Software as an engineering discipline has long lacked standardization and regulation to be on par with other engineering disciplines, and the fact that code and all its surrounding ecosystems are not "visibile" or "malleable" makes this extremely hard.
You can use terraform and yaml to define infrastructure that literally spins up machines _somewhere_ in the internet. With all its issues, bugs and associated consequences mostly being ignored.
I just don't understand the difficulty in KNOWING what needs to be done: NO LLM usage in university/grad/high schools, NO LLM usage in the first 3 years of your professional career.
Once the basics are solidly grasped, then they can use it at will.
The problem has never been about wisdom, knowledge or LLMs writing good, bad, maintainable or terrible code. It has always been about the skill level of people using it AND on the fact that people start off-loading basic things to these models that they wouldn't before.
If you have the knowledge and "suffered" through experience to learn the fundamentals, than not using LLMs becomes more deterimental than beneficial.
You just CAN NOT skip the trial by fire of learning and absorbing knowledge on your own. That's all.
I've recently managed to bridge the biggest gap I've had and, while it seems to be something that is NOT yet great from a UI/UX perspective (you need an account with intervals.icu to use it), I can now send workouts with structured splits, pace targets and reps to my Garmin watch, which effectively means I can replace using a paid app with my own to get, essentially, the same benefits.
I did put a previous version to the test, by running a plan generated with it to run my first ever trail race in May (a 22Km race with over 1100m elevation successfully completed) and since then I've kept revamping plan adaptation, workout generation and watch integration and it's now sitting in a very sweet spot for me, I might actually cancel my paid app subscriptions after running a few more hundred kms to really test it! runcoach.fly.dev
On my work tasks, FastAPI Python and Springboot Java on a modern SaaS product, the only open model that can do tasks well and efficiently is Qwen3.7-Max.
In all my experiments, both GLM-5.2 and Kimi are busy grepping around the codebase for ALMOST 70-80K tokens before writing anything and when they do it typically breaks the code… it feels to me that these models are good but only when you write out a super detailed spec of the task just like it was done a year ago… Qwen3.7 just… does it
The biggest moat of these giant labs and models is increasingly shifting towards deployment capabilities and (debatably) having better (proprietary) harnesses.
The models themselves can be impressive on benchmarks, but unless they can be served reliably to customers either at scale, hosted somewhere, or even on edge with predictable latency and memory usage, then frontier will always be leading.
There's nothing practical about open-source models yet that makes them even remotely comparable to closed frontier models.
All the hype around GLM, Qwen, now Kimi.... Are people really this naive that they believe these reports or, more worringly, are people NOT using these models and seeing the HUGE gap that still exists?
Take a task, any medium-sized task, decently scoped that you'd trust to give to Sonnet to finish without a hitch. Now give it to ANY open-source frontier model and watch them struggle and go in circles while failing tool calls and randomly assuming things.
Open-source is and has been amazing but its so hard to deploy reliably and at scale and there's still big problems in the underlying models with instruction following and tool calling that makes it basically unusable for production workloads at a decent price point...
Delivery is becoming a sequence of checks, not a ritual The same thing happens when it is time to deliver.
First, I invoke my /definition-of-done skill. It checks whether the implementation covers what was stated in the PR and in the plan. It checks tests and the other validations I care about. It tells me when something looks unusual, broken, or missing. When everything looks good, I invoke another skill, /pr-check-release. That checks the remote PR, updates labels, removes [WIP], adds [RFC], updates the description, and prepares the change for review. If one day passes and nobody on the team reviews the PR, we merge it. The agent also tracks that condition for me, so I can run /pr-merge-dev, and it takes care of the process: merge the PR, delete the remote branch, delete the local branch, and pull dev back into a fresh state. None of these steps is particularly difficult. That is exactly the point.
But then:
I still care about all of those things. Probably more than most people.
Obviously the author has irreversibly became AI-pilled and the day API costs balloon or APIs are down, what work will the author do?
I love using AI but please read the diffs and process them with your human brains and eyes. Spin up your containers manually, test the app, MANUALLY. Talk to real users face to face.
Outsourcing the grunt work is fine, but there's a fine line between that and becoming a button-presser.
There’s far, far too many people who confuse code quality for speed of development and start treating code quality as the product for customer base in the hundreds and active customers in the dozens and for most features to be basically unused.
The reality is that tech debt as a concept these days is hardly real: to be in debt means previous decisions or a previous implementation makes current work extremely hard or impossible, but, the truth is that the human factors such as knowing what to build, team collaboration and even speaking to customers matter far more and can get you “in debt” so so much faster than code alone. At least in your typical SaaS company.
If you ship code in a way that you let tech debt pile up to the point that customers notice it, you have an organisational problem, not code issues per se.
The fact that a lot of people don’t get this is really baffling to me.
It works well for me so far and I’m pretty happy with it!
For work, unlimited usage via Bedrock.
Yes I’d like to get more usage out of my personal sub, but at 20/mo no complains
Now idk if it’s just me or anything else changed, but, in the last 4/5 days, the quality of the output of Opus 4.6 with max effort has been ON ANOTHER LEVEL. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! It seems to reason deeper, verifies the work with tests more often, and I even think that it compacted the conversations more effectively and often. Somehow even the quality of the English “text” in the output felt definitely superior. More crisp, using diagrams and analogies to explain things in a way that it completely blew me away. I can’t explain it but this was absolutely real for me.
I’d say that I can measure it quite accurately because I’ve kept my harness and scope of tasks and way of prompting exactly the same, so something TRULY shifted.
I wish I could get some empirical evidence of this from others or a confirmation from Boris…. But ISTG these last few days felt absolutely incredible.
Again, I agree with you and the service should be at least reliable but to be completely fair, if I had to bet, the amount of usage people get for 100/mo is probably only balanced out by the corporate/entreprise customers paying their bill to Anthropic via API usage.
If we look at it through this lens, this limits are not surprising at all, except maybe on how generous they are/were. It’s pretty obvious that they want to force people to pay as they go….
The ecosystem is evolving super quickly so, our own experiences and workflows must keep adapting with it to experiment, find limitations and arrive at the "tightest possible scope" that still allows you to get things done, because it is possible.
Another example: pre-paid monthly subscription aggregates usage towards web and Claude Code, for eg. So if you're checking for holiday itineraries over your lunch break, then decide to sit down and ask a team of agents to refactor a giant codebase with hundreds or thousands of files, context will be exhuasted quickly, etc, etc.
I see this "context economy" as a new way of managing your "mental models": every token counts, and every token must bear its weight for the task at hand, otherwise, I'm "wasting budget". I am also still learning how to operate in this new way of doing things, and, while there have been genuine issues with Claude Code, not every single issue that people encounter is an upstream problem.
If your limits stay "the same", but you then use Opus 4.6, your quota will be exhausted much faster, it's just how it works.
Note that some features are simply NOT made for these Pro, Max, Max 5x or whatever pre-paid plans. I'm pretty sure this is by design and not an accident or a bug: If you have 6/7 MCP servers configured or if you want to use this new feature of "Agent Teams", you will exhaust your entire quota before ANY work is even done. This is not a bug. Each agent has its own context window and tools and they all count separately.
MCP servers, when active, add A LOT of context to your sessions before you even use them, etc, etc.
It feels to me that people want to have their cake and eat it too, but, that would NOT be a sustainable business model. You can not complain about the tools if you can't understand them in-depth.
I want to state that I don't think Anthropic are fully aware of the ramifications that ANY small change in ANY of their models might have, because their entire ecosystem is a bit messy atm, but, I'm certain they're aware that if people dont like it, they will cancel the subscription and flock to a competitor very quickly, since there's no real moat anymore. So, it's in their own interest to keep things minimally usable even on the "cheaper plans".
I have seen people with 5-10 "active MCP servers" that they "wanted to try out" then they forget about it and wonder why their context is always full... Cmon... that's almost bad faith.
I don't fully defend Anthropic as they've had several issues with degraded model quality after releasing "the latest model", and CLI usability that cost me real money and real tokens, so, there's a lot of room for improvement, but, to claim that quota gets exhausted after 1h it points out to either some forgotten MCP servers, skills or giant files being accidentally read in, or some sort of mis-use which these limits were put in place to prevent exactly.
There's a very thin line between: quota is exhuasted on a regular, normal session after 1h and I think there's a bug versus I had 3-4 MCP servers active that I am not using at all but forgot to disable and my CLAUDE.md file is 1000 lines...
The design becoming obvious. Being able to remove that extra if statement after clarifying requirements with a customer face to face.
A design pattern fitting a scenario like a glove, etc, etc.
You need REAL experience that only comes with time and effort. Years or decades, different businesses, different companies, etc.
But once you have crossed that chasm and that rite of passage, using LLMs becomes a true multiplier and my experience quite fun.
Using them blindly or without experience is a very different thing I can imagine.
I am extremely excited about that! Coding in itself as the act of manually typing things? Absolutely not
I only use Claude Code with Opus 4.6 on High Effort.
I always, ALWAYS treat my “new job” as writing a detailed ticket for whatever it is I need to do.
I give the model access to a DB replica of my prod DB that I create manually.
I do NOT waste time with custom agents, Claude.md files or any of that stuff.
When I put ALL of the above together, the results ARE THE PROMISED LAND: I simply haven’t written a single line of code manually in the last 3 months.