brutally-honest

> Its a totally voluntary activity that primarly benefits yourself and your own family and most people do it because they just want to.

I don't think the main beneficiary of raising children is their family. That child will one day grow into adult who will contribute to society with ideas and labour.

> Outside of nationalist 'we need to have a strong population' or basic evolutionary 'human survival' concerns I really don't see how it is a necessity for the actual people living in the country, specially all of those that don't have or want children.

Well, I don't think people who don't have or don't want children should have them. But within a society, someone needs to have them. Because someone needs to be your waiter, your janitor, your doctor, lawyer, grocer, plumber – I mean, every activity that is provided to us is provided by someone who once was a child. Everyone we work for and with was also once a child.

Given that both people who want and don't want children benefit of there being a society at all, and this society is made out of grown-up children, it's in society's interest to make it easier.

Raising a family is great but is also a burden. The benefits however are shared with the society at large. Also for people who don't want children to be able to not have them and still enjoy the benefits, it makes sense to try to spread the burden widely among society.

Your hobbies are, in the grand scheme of things, unimportant.

Having a next generation growing up well-educated and well-fed is, in the grand scheme of things, important.

Raising children is not a hobby, it's a social necessity.

Then one day you're crossing the street, someone on a car can't see you behind their A pillar, and this was all for nothing =/

Life is happening right now, not later on. Vision acuity, muscle tenacity, disposition, hell, even liver performance – these won't wait for you :-)

What are you working for, actually?

So has the US:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition

I switched from QWERTY to my language's equivalent of Dvorak and a few years later back.

I think most important than the layout itself, is to learn how to touch type. Keeping your fingers on the home row. Using opposing control characters instead of using one hand to reach multiple keys, etc etc.

I agree with you. Trust me, in ordinary contexts I'd be the last person defending the PMERJ or the Military Intervention, it's all wrong and rotten and not a real public policy.

However on HN the discourse has the exact opposite bias. People have this idea of morality that's based on their conceptions and not directly on what's happening around them.

Just posting this here in reply to a comment whose thread was flagged. Context is "whose definition of criminal should we use".

How about "people openly flaunting assault weapons"? As someone who lived in Rio most of their life, I think that's a good line to draw. Opinions filled with "human rights" concerns from people far removed are probably ethically and morally correct, which is... cute.

We're fighting an Urban War over here. This is a Concrete Jungle. This is a crazy post-apocalyptic situation to which most people in Rio grew accustomed to while most people outside Rio can barely picture.

As a police officer once told my wife as she was leaving her house in Rocinha and stopped to be patted down and inquired why was she being selected:

– Mam, do you know where you are? You are not in in Los Angeles. You are not in Paris.

My moral qualms went out the window around the same time my grandmother was murdered by being thrown off a bridge in Aterro do Flamengo.

How about "people openly flaunting assault weapons"? As someone who lived in Rio most of their life, I think that's a good line to draw.

Opinions filled with "human rights" concerns from people far removed are probably ethically and morally correct, which is... cute.

We're fighting an Urban War over here. This is a Concrete Jungle. This is a crazy post-apocalyptic situation to which most people in Rio grew accustomed to while most people outside Rio can barely picture.

As a police officer once told my wife as she was leaving her house in Rocinha and stopped to be patted down and inquired why was she being selected:

– Mam, do you know where you are? You are not in in Los Angeles. You are not in Paris.

My moral qualms went out the window around the same time my grandmother was murdered by being thrown off a bridge in Aterro do Flamengo.