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>I still find it hilarious that AI is so bad you need something to sit in front of it to pick models for you. And that's a normal, accepted thing

My lord. Of all the terrible, uniformed takes the HN posters are spewing, this is the worst one I've seen in a while.

The anti-AI crowd really are clueless, eh?

Sounds like you don't know what cashflow, profit, revenue and investment are.

Why on earth do data centres need to be built from cashflow???

You think Elon Musk fans were reading the financials???

The financials were always bad. Everyone with half a brain avoided the IPO. Did you?

Of course they do. The HN braintrust is mostly financially illiterate and sees conspiracies and fraud everywhere.

This is the biggest capital buildout on history. Saying money will be wasted is not insightful, it's obvious.

Yes, it happens all the time. Similarly it will say, "I'm not sure, let me look into this before I answer" then come back with "here's what I found".

Look at the responses in this thread and others, arguing with these people is futile.

I now read the absolute dumbest shit on HackerNews when it comes to AI. "It can't write code! It's always wrong!" And no one ever demonstrates any of it, even if it is counter to the experiences of others.

I'd feel bad if most of these people weren't total jerks...

Chatbots say "no" or "I don't know" all the time, so once again I feel like the anti-AI crew don't actually use it.

Their best models are getting more and more expensive, and still aren't SOTA.

It's almost like there's an actual cost to developing these models, and the Chinese don't have magic dirt that allows them to do it at a fraction of the cost.

Losing the reserve currency doesn't happen in a vacuum. It happened to the British and Dutch because their empires were dismantled.

So, yeah, it could happen to the US, slowly, over time (it already is). But nobody wakes up tomorrow and says they no longer want USD. Where are you parking the money, yuan?

If your company has bad engineers cranking out 10,000 line PRs your engineering culture and product was already bad, I guarantee it.

How many people actually care about phone tech anymore?

Like, of course there are subcultures that love this stuff, and I'm not criticizing that. And these folding phones are neat tech. But at some point phones for the 99% got "good enough", the model to model upgrades aren't even worth it.

So edit it?

Bro, you aren't Shakespeare. I read the crap people write here every day. And guess what? It doesn't bother me.

The right thinks everyone in government is inherently evil, and the left thinks everyone in management or above is inherently evil.

Lots of evil out there, apparently.

And blames it on "AI usage".

Is blockchain really your analogy here? Something that is also new?

You are proving my point.

You say it's "not new", but then don't seem to have any gauge of technological history. How long before the internet was monetized? 30 years?

It's completely invalid. Small dose melatonin is all over Amazon and iHerb.

That's not a "rumour", it's conspiracy theory. Because everything is a conspiracy theory now.

No, the dosage is not patented. It doesn't even make sense. How would it work? "Oh, 0.5mg is patented, so let's put 1mg in the tablets and never sell 0.5mg".

I can get all kinds of dosages from the pharmacy. However, most of what they stock is "too high", probably because there's very little research/wisdom/knowledge around the supplement.

I love that people have developed a "sleep stack" without ever even knowing if what they take is improving the effects of sleep.

You don't always need to extend or adapt. Not every piece of software is a business. Most often it's a tool to achieve something else.

Besides, this all revolves around the, I believe false, premise that humans write code better than AI.

...Whether you are an LLM or human. And, on average, LLMs write better code than humans.

Not you, of course. You write exceptional code with zero errors that never needs rework. I'm talking about the rest of us.

So we are not building solar and wind anywhere, any more?

I know this place has become a political cesspool like reddit, but I implore you to think a little beyond "Trump bad".

Then why are the major American labs in "deep trouble"? They can also continue to be subsidized and release the weights if they want to, if that's what you think it takes for survival. Seems like a low bar.

The point is it takes money to keep developing models. Everyone is playing by the same rules. At this point, the US labs are trying to build businesses. I'm not really sure what the Chinese labs goals are. But I do know they aren't doing charity work.

"isn't the old version good enough?"

You can say this about literally every product we buy. And yet...

One random says they are using DeepSeek and you proclaim it's all over for the top AI labs. Brilliant.

First of all, no one knows the "true cost" of any of this, yet, but we know it's expensive. To what extent are the Chinese labs being subsidized? Are they real businesses?

Second, the Chinese labs aren't some "super geniuses", while the American labs are full of clowns. As of today, like the past 3 years, American labs are SOTA. That might change, but let's not act like the American labs don't know what they are doing.

The idea that people are going to use cheaper models for cheaper work isn't some novel revelation, it's completely obvious. People are doing it already, eschewing Fable.

What's insane is that one person will cite something this in one place, but the rest of the people in the thread say "why aren't we building wind and solar????"

We are building lots. Of everything.

Not shocked to see here that people believe "manually writing code" is the way to build brain power.

How about moving up the stack?

Okay.

Pseudo-intellectual drivel.

The OP is calling Karpathy out for producing slop, all because he loves playing with AI. Karpathy has done more for the industry than 10 of the OPs combined. Get a life.

Sometimes I wonder if some folks have even used AI. Maybe this is your chance: AI will easily take you down a rabbit hole of financial advice beyond your ability to understand it, including up to date research. Far beyond what 99% of people would find useful or interesting.