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I appreciate you sharing your perspective, but "I'm not telling you who I work for because you'll find us if you need us" coupled with "find your own in a small geographic radius" isn't broadly helpful in any way. I was hopeful to see if I could divest some DNS risk, then just got hit with your IYKYK wall of uselessness. I did search for niche providers around me, but I think we're in wildly different markets. Maybe just the nudge to search is helpful for some people, but I found it to be a fruitless rabbit hole.

I said nothing about Anthropic's right to run their company how they choose. Nor, frankly, did you. Your comments directed at myself and the parent are simply made in bad faith. The snark and sanctimony drips from virtually every sentence you wrote, but "Perhaps you need to stretch that which you surely take to be your vast imagination." is certainly one obvious example of many.

If you can't acknowledge the irony of a thread about civil communication between human and machine involving statements such as yours, between human and human, all the more from one such as yourself seemingly trying to take the moral high ground, well, I'm not sure what more to say. I suppose it's best to be mutually amused, and go about our good days.

I read it to mean, the type of person who begins a comment with:

> If only matters of interest were limited to the things you could "absolutely fathom" how much simpler our lives would all be.

Immediately proceeds to label the parent comment as "snide" and then feigns misguided ignorance when met with exasperation.

I'm not xyzsparetimexyz though. Merely a person amused by the rapid devolution of communication from those trying to take the sanctimonious high ground on how sacred all forms of written speech should be, directed to machine or otherwise...

Jesus Herbert Christo. Literally, not figuratively, literally, as I was reading your comment I got the "iCloud Storage is Full" upsell nag that I have tried to disable a hundred times. I stopped to asked my Lord and Savior Claude to help this time around:

> What I found on your Mac

> Apple Intelligence is ON. com.apple.CloudSubscriptionFeatures.optIn → [REDACTED] = 1 — that number is your Apple Account DSID. ~2.5 GB of models in /System/Library/AssetsV2/com_apple_MobileAsset_UAF_*, with generativeexperiencesd, intelligenceplatformd, modelmanagerd, TGOnDeviceInferenceProviderService and a Messages Assistant Extension all resident.

> The nag is pure upsell. Every iCloud service that notification names is already off on this Mac — your account has only KEYCHAIN_SYNC and FIND_MY_MAC enabled. Photos, Mail, Backup, Drive: all off. It's nagging you about your other devices' storage. Source is the com.apple.appleaccount.notifications bundle, fed by followupd and com.apple.CloudSubscriptionFeatures.followup.engagement.

> "I said no and Apple said yes" is literally happening. Siri shows Assistant Enabled = 0, yet ten Siri daemons are running. Share Mac Analytics is off (AutoSubmit = 0) — and SubmitDiagInfo still logged LastFullSubmissionSuccess today at 12:36 UTC.

This is absolutely bananas.

Thanks for the kind response, and for teaching me more about the possible risks and downsides. I was just involved in the editing of the surgical footage, so I never got the "here's the potential drawbacks" speech. I wish you all the best in finding improvement for your situation!

Given your personal experience, I expect you know significantly more than I do, but I just wanted to note: about 20 years ago, I was part of a small company that filmed and edited educational, medical videos for various clients. One of the main things we filmed for a while were Peyronies repair surgeries. They were using a product called Surgisis from Cook Medical as a tissue scaffold to straighten things out. It looks like, sometime in the past 20 years, Cook may have moved on to a new product called Biodesign: https://www.cookmedical.com/surgery/the-path-from-surgisis-t..., but I don't know anything about that.

You may know all of this already, and it may not be relevant to your situation at all, but in the slim hope that my experience of editing scores of Peyronies surgery videos may help nudge you in a new or helpful direction: there you have it!

Ha. I didn't realize until I checked the comments that I worked with Beth in Nashville too! Not sure what that says about how I consume content these days... but she's delightful.

Two of my favorite classes in college were Color Studies and Typography. As a long time back end engineer, I would encourage anyone unfamiliar to spend at least a little bit of time looking into both. If you're at all intrigued, treat yourself to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Typographic_St.... It will forever change how you look at text (hopefully for the better!).

> It signals either astroturfing or someone who just accepts what they are sold without thinking.

> Nor this level of spam and bad submissions.

Your comments seem pretty aggressive for what you’re replying to. Maybe take a beat to assess your biases? I thought the main comment was pretty fair and sensible, yet somehow you landed on calling them a spammer/bad submitter/astroturfer/non-thinker. Maybe they are? I could be wrong, but that's quite a strong reaction for what they asserted at face value. Not really trying to police anything here, I just thought the initial comment had merit and this devolved quite quickly.

With all my heart, I want to cheer you on. Making stuff is damn hard, and shipping is even harder. You did that, and I applaud you for it.

I do a lot of NYT puzzle stuff every day and some other random puzzle sites before I get out of bed. That said, I'm over 40, love puzzles, love complicated board games, went through your brief explainer, and could not get a sensible handle on how to even start this thing. A new player has to really care about how to even try to begin to figure out whatever this is. I gave it about 20 seconds after the "how does it work?" Honestly, I gave up. I'm really not trying to rain on your parade. You might find a niche audience, and it'll be what you're going for, but I think you need a much, much better rules explainer if you want to be even remotely in the vicinity of a Wordle-level banger.

This thing might be really awesome, but not being able to figure out how to use it is a hard out for me.

> Jan 6 riot was a relatively peaceful affair

Literally ignoring any and all recorded footage clearly demonstrating violence to the contrary, what kind of vocabulary judo do you have to perform to label a woman being shot to death[1] a "relatively peaceful affair." Calling anything "relatively peaceful" where someone dies by getting shot genuinely boggles my mind. By this standard, Charlie Kirk's debate was "relatively peaceful."

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ashli_Babbitt

We can totally appreciate that everyone has their own price points. That said, I do want to clarify that Jelly is not priced per user. The starting plan is $29/mo for your entire team. Period. In the landscape of similar tools, we think that’s quite a lovely deal.

For some folks, that’s still expensive. We get it. If so (especially if you’re a nonprofit or educational institution or...) reach out to us and let’s talk!

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NO!

Thanks for the heads up! We’ll crack open the CSS...

The short story is that Good Enough has put a handful of (hopefully) delightful things into the world: https://goodenough.us/

Putting things into the world means getting emails. Being a team means juggling said emails about things amongst several people.

Enter the Shared Fastmail Account.

"Oh! A new email. Click. Oh, this isn’t really for me. Mark as unread. Or did someone else already read this, mark as unread, and think it was for me? I guess I will go talk to..." And, you know, two dozen variations on that theme. It sucked as a way to work together.

  what benefits does this provide over something like Slack or Discord for small teams?

We use Slack at Good Enough. It’s nifty. We even have a Jelly + Slack integration (and we use that too)! That said, the problem I described isn’t really solved by Slack. (Maybe Discord if you’re in a space that can funnel interactions there, but obviously there’s a lot of businesses who aren’t, and there’s a lot of drawbacks to using Discord as your only communication medium.)

Email is still widely used and wildly useful. We think being able to collaborate on emails as a team, with clear expectations about who is handling what and visibility on all the back and forth, is really helpful. We’ve been using it to scratch our own itch from day one, and we suspect it will be of interest to others as well!

Let me know if any of that didn’t make sense or you have any other questions.

Thanks for the kind words (and for passing Jelly along to others!).

  Maybe my only suggestion would be different kinds of archiving

Definitely something for us to consider. Thanks for the feedback!

  Also I see the Trix WYSIWYG editor, rails? :)

You nailed it! The Good Enough crew have all been long, long time Ruby/Rails fans. We’ve even landed a few commits into Rails along the way. :)

Jelly is currently using Render, and we have automated deploys set up from Github, so just merging the PR kicks off the magic sauce.

taking off my Jelly hat

I’ve also used Kamal + Hetzner for a few other simple things recently, and it’s been surprisingly delightful (speaking as someone who has never enjoyed mucking about with deployment frameworks).

Thanks for the kind words! We’re definitely trying to spread more decency and reason in the world. :)

  I'm going to send this around to some people.

Even bigger thanks! It’s hard to ship stuff, and it’s even harder to spread the word.

Yes! Jelly was born out of a shared Fastmail account. You can forward your email to your dedicated Jelly address and be jamming (sorry not sorry) in no time. Don’t hesitate to drop us a line if you have any questions or feedback!

  Love the product and you've nailed the simple design!

Thanks for the kind words!

  I'm concerned about email deliverability

As I’m sure you can imagine, we’re very concerned about email deliverability. We use Postmark to send email and deliverability hasn’t been an issue thus far, but your verification email ending up in spam is not cool. I would ask some followup questions here, but troubleshooting this on HN isn’t ideal for either of us. Any chance you could drop us a line at https://letterbird.co/jelly if you’re willing to dig a bit deeper with us? Sorry for the less-than-stellar experience thus far!

Good questions! Most of our products are built with a pretty vanilla Rails stack (what we’re most familiar/comfortable with) backed by Postgres. Beyond that, it’s just the classic engineering struggle of trying to keep things simple and maintainable while making tradeoffs to ship stuff that’s Good Enough™. :) Happy to speak to any more specifics if you have further questions!

Por que no los dos?

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I see what you did there.

Jelly’s here for you when it stops being, well, good enough!

Glad to hear it! Let us know if you have any questions or feedback. (Cade @ Good Enough)

Thanks for the love! Please don’t hesitate to reach out to us with any questions or feedback: https://letterbird.co/jelly — we’ll be handling any messages you send from our own Jelly account! :)

Cade here with Good Enough.

  I love the frontend design

Thanks!

  What's the stack like?

It’s a relatively mainline Rails stack. The Good Enough crew has worked in the Rails ecosystem for a long, long time, so it’s what we’re most comfortable/happiest working with!

  are you using SES to handle the inbound mail?

We’re using Postmark to handle all the email processing.

Let me know if you have any other questions!

100% this. I paid the increasingly common "privacy and control premium" for a Valve Index (which I'm very happy with) to avoid the entanglements of borrowing a headset from Meta for a large, up front, non-refundable fee.

> It is gated by iTunes, just not 100%

I bought an iPod Mini in '04 that I used for a summer photography course as an external hard drive. An actual external hard drive would have been cheaper, but after my summer trip was over and I no longer needed the additional storage space — hey, I had an iPod Mini! I copied photos onto it from a CF card via USB. It was literally drag and drop. There was no iTunes gating. You're just... wrong here.

1. "A does the same thing as B. Don't you see how wrong you are?" How does this make B better than A? Your position literally makes no sense, and I am super duper not an Apple apologist.

Enjoyed the Black Mirror reference, and will hopefully add to the pop culture enjoyable cross linking with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumancentiPad.

> WHY WON’T IT READ?!

I don't know what I believe about much of anything anymore, but here's some random nudges if you are indeed genuinely asking:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Collins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Plantinga

> It's hard to really gauge the size of something from just measurements.

I know some folks already hinted at this in the comments, but it's beyond bizarre to me to read this quote on HN. The size of something is literally the measurements. If the measurements are wrong, that's one thing... I'll sometimes cut out cardboard or mask things off in painters tape if I want to know how they fit in a space. Accurately reported measurements should never be hard to "really gauge."