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The wind-down cost was very small in comparison to the price Oracle paid.
All the engineers went to work for Oracle and were given large incentives to stay for 2 years. Most stayed and got their incentive payouts, though they all eventually left later on. I think the longest tenure at Oracle there ~8 years.
That left us needing to wind down the DataScaler corporate entity. This is a fairly technical process and not something you do casually. We hired Sherwood Partners to do the wind down. They filed the appropriate paperwork with Delaware and California, since we were a Delaware C corp based in Cupertino. They stored our corporate files (lots of paper back then) in their warehouse for 7 years in case of any litigation, tax disputes, etc. The offered to connect us with a liquidator to sell off our desks, chairs, phones, etc. They don't actually do the liquidation themselves. Perhaps most importantly, they were legally the "Stockholder Representative" and ensured that the stockholders were properly taken care of, etc.
We used Sherwood exclusively for the corporate wind-down part, as we already had a buyer. They also can help companies find buyers and they have lots of contacts in the valley.
I am happy to answer questions if anyone has any.
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I found the Emacs Starter Kit (http://github.com/technomancy/emacs-starter-kit/tree/master) and the Meet Emacs Peepcode Screencast (http://peepcode.com/products/meet-emacs) to be awesome. After a couple hours of working through the screencast, I was a 5x better Emacs user than I had been after 2+ years of Aquamacs use. You have to "get" Emacs and Aquamacs doesn't force you to do that. The $9 for the Peepcode screencast was the best money I've spent in a long time.
Pluses so far: + Concise code; no ceremony. + Best concurrency paradigm I've seen. This is huge to me. + Effortless integration w/ Java libraries.
Cons so far: - Not the most readable language. Reminds me more of Perl than Python. Newbies like me take a while to figure out all the sigils. - Making Clojure code run fast is non-trivial. Often a speedup-focused rewrite produces code that is much more obscure than the original.
My opinion may change over time, but those are my thoughts currently. I am really enjoying Clojure.
As Matt explains, he was re-added to the index with no explanation. Perhaps Nick Carr will have a similar redemption.
My personal theory is that they tried to price their service too low in an attempt to get mass adoption. Think Porsche trying to sell $20K cars. The busy business traveler who spends $50K-100K of dollars on travel per year is their target market, not the average traveler.
Ultimately, a business has to cover its costs. Clear's fixed costs are (were) substantial and their customer base was limited. At some price ($1000?) I believe it could have been made profitable. However, I don't have the balance sheet, so I may be way off.
As for the Ruby influence, Rich mentioned that he is a "language nerd" and learns all kinds of languages. Whether any one language shows up in some way in Clojure is another matter ;-) I think the Ruby influence shows up in Clojure's ease of scripting Java, cutting through the ceremony to get things done in minimal code.
Python totally changed my world.