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Who is causing what here? If there is no demand for those services then the data center will sit there idle and cause no pollution. You can't consume services that cause pollution without accepting your share of the responsibility.

The AI companies look at something called the "endless government bureaucracy" and they think to themselves "fuck that, I'm not waiting 10 years for all that bullshit, I'll just use the loophole." I truly cannot comprehend any other reaction because I would rather have my fingernails ripped out than deal with years of government bureaucracy.

The entire point of a temporary visa is that the host country can refuse to renew and force you to leave the country at their whim. When you apply for such a visa you accept those terms.

We'll be fine. It didn't take Germany & Japan that long after they started WWII

It's unethical to decide I don't want to go through the whole visa bureaucracy to hire employees?

No it's really not the same because we have laws against racial discrimination, but it is the entire purpose of the state to represent the interests of its citizens above all others.

I am well aware that's not what you are proposing. What you are proposing includes "wait 10 years" which absolutely no reasonable person is going to accept.

That's how it works already. You pay the power company and that money is invested into the grid. Somehow this has worked in Ashburn VA for their massive data center build out so I don't see why it can't work in other places too.

Obviously nobody wants to wait 10 years and it has nothing to do with stupidity or fear.

And this doesn't make you question the narrative that they are really damaging anything?

People complain when you hook them up to the high efficiency generators that power the grid, so this is what they get.

So where is the guy who is respectful to the government and compliant with regulations that is out there building millions of EVs, rockets, and massive satellite constellations? If he existed I could respect your argument. But in reality the only guy who seems to be able to build a modern mass manufacturing company in the US is the trillionaire who runs roughshod over all forms of government oversight that gets in his way. That should tell you something about where the problem lies here.

Elon Musk isn't the problem, he is the symptom. The problem is that it is basically required to be ruthless and corrupt to get anything done in this country at the scale, price, and timeline needed to be commercially viable. The solution is less regulation and bureaucracy, not more.

It has a political valence when one party is campaigning on punishing and stopping them from building. "Should" is a meaningless word unless I have agency to change that, and I don't.

The whole "temporary jobs" line is completely irrelevant nonsense. Sure, it's correct, but who cares? The alternative is zero. It's not like there is only a limited amount of undeveloped land and a bunch of people bidding for it. And of course those jobs don't stick around after construction is over. They're construction workers. They move on to the the next construction job.

And where did that money to increase wages come from?

There absolutely is everything wrong with implicating a company that has no knowledge of and no responsibility for the breach.

In this case by founding Netscape

And thank god they did. I'm old enough to remember the hell of the taxi cartel.

By this comment I assume you have been one of these executives at a huge company?

And those business owners are free to choose those alternatives at any time they please. You are not free to make that choice for them.

Maybe they have no interest in finding something else. Maybe they aren't interested in your opinion and don't see you as someone they are want to learn lessons from.

So you want them to be held responsible when kids use their platform, but you don't want them to be able to prevent kids from using it?

So millions of small business owners would have to pay for something they get now for free

“Move fast and break things” -> “Move fast with stable infrastructure”

Lawyers and bureaucrats are organizational cancer.

It's a simple formula:

def do_i_belong_to(country):

    return this.army * this.commitment_level < country.army * country.commitment_level

It's too late for that. This would have maybe worked 30 years ago, but since the Patriot Act and FISA we have literal secret courts approving >99% of the government's requests for surveillance. The existence of the data is now enough to guarantee its misuse.

Never did

The incentives are horrible. Piss off the government and you won't be included in the pool of sites that are eligible for shakedown money. Piss off Google / Meta and they will throw you out in the cold and make a deal with another site in the pool.

Hard to call it an "agreement" at that point. I thought one of the fundamental rules of contract law is that it can't be signed under duress.

The theory that these online platforms are stealing value from the news companies is thoroughly disproven by the fact that they would rather ban news from their platform than make the payments. This is a government shakedown and nothing more. If local news is worth funding publicly then it should be done properly out of a general tax on the public like other public programs.

I used to believe that, but too many times I have been proven wrong. Remember when the "professional journalists" were screaming about a terrorist plot against the UN last year and it was just a garden variety SIM farm running fraud?