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I don't think an analogy about hammers is a particularly strong way to make a case for or against software frameworks. There are many situations where a framework makes a lot of sense and lots of situations where they don't. Some simple heuristics like ' you don't want to use a framework when your project has the following properties... ' would explain the case better and also help create discourse rather than black and white opinionating.

Pretty much, I'm simply trying to understand what the fundamental value of the currency is. The reason i'm using illegal goods is that they are the only ones i can find whose exchange must be in bitcoing (yes there are some other smaller goods but nothing on that scale).

that's the current market value yes, i'm trying to estimate the fundamental value

Thanks, I'll think of how i can put the order process into a video.

And yes, building up trust is a very difficult problem which may prove un-solveable.

Thanks good point.

Absolutely. But I think there is a disconnect raganwald points out between the owners / managers who had the idea of going to groupon and the staff who feel it's effects.

I hope we can contribute at least some part of the kudos for inventing tapas restaurants to the Spanish as well as the MBA students.

Something close to 'Eat like a human' springs to mind.

Sounds like a pretty sensible practice.

Agreed she/he shouldn't have to but from one everyone is saying it sounds like that is the reality.

Of course it's easy to understand and I sympathise with her but it doesn't make it enjoyable!

I'll certainly watch the IPO though I won't be participating. My understanding is that they think they have a competitive advantage coming from the Groupon voice https://docs.google.com/View?id=dmv9rbh_2g92x4scj&pli=1&... - the way the write their ads.

I have no idea whether you're supposed to show it up front or not either - it didn't say on the voucher. I felt as though I should at least tell them.

I'm starting to think of them (and myself as one of them) as a blight on decent society too :)

That's very true, though if you only go to places you know and trust then Groupon isn't doing it's job for the restaurant! They're simply giving a discount to loyal customers.

That's a good point to consider - it must be hard for a waitress / waiter to swallow that their evening will take a pay cut because their boss has decided to get into social advertising.

There was no fine print - the deal was as quoted. But you're right if we hadn't mentioned it, the night would have been more pleasant. At least till the end..

It's good to hear you'll go back to the nice restaurant. For some reason I can't get over the mindset that if I return I'm no longer getting the discount so it's way too expensive.

Yeah good point. She did explain it to us and point out the wording of the deal as though she expected us to argue.

I agree, in the internet age I was hoping searching would become more efficient so that 'find good restaurant in xxx' was a sensible thing to type into a search box. Currently there's too much noise so places like yelp are a much better option. Interestingly Yelp hasn't taken off here yet.

I should say the service wasn't horrible - it was just so noticeable the change in attitude from when we were regular customers to 'Grouponers'. I do like the point that half the value of a restaurant is the service. Except in Chinese restaurants, my favorite one has terrible service but the food is great and it seems to add to the character of the place.

I think you're right that they don't love it - and if I were in there shoes I'd have trouble keeping a pleasant demeanour if I was losing money from people being in my restaurant too!

Good to know it wasn't a one off.

It's a good point that it would be very 'industry' specific. If they are simply delivering goods it's hard to cut corners. Though that said it's not easy to cut such large amounts from physical goods.

I like your commitment to proper scientific process but I'm not sure I could bring myself to go back though - my heart is no longer in it..

I think you're spot on that Groupon customers are poor tippers. This was in the UK though where the tipping culture isn't so common place.

Hi thanks for checking it out. I assume you had test in the email? That would redirect you to our test site - I've fixed that now.

Really good point, I hadn't considered the notification / revocation of stolen coins. And I can't picture my grandmother with all the good intentions in the world being able to secure a digital wallet properly.

That's a good point. There is only so much demand for slogan t-shirts and llama socks.