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I think your insight isn't a bad one but -- The famous people I've interacted with would be pretty quick to agree with the downsides (they are painful and huge) .. but also very generous about admitting the upsides. Depending on the level of fame they can be enormous. The special access of famous people's lives is.. hard to understand if you don't have it (I don't have it, but I've witnessed and experienced the tiniest bits of it and holy shit). I don't think a single one of them would trade it / go back.

I was so annoyed by them forcing podcasts down my throat that I left the platform. Sample size of one, but give me a break people! Make it a separate tab in the app at least. Makes you wonder if this tested well with a bunch of users that aren't me or if they didn't even test with a user!

I can see how the ambiguity makes it seem like I'm saying that I think the people made this decision to directly cause pain. That's not what I meant and no I don't believe they made the decision trying to hurt people.

What I do think happened is that they saw how much pain it would cause people, then they looked at some fucking dollar amount and some spreadsheet and said "that's fine". I think that's fucked up.

I found the writer to be downright empathetic. People make these decisions on purpose to cause their employees this much pain and you're worried about defending their feelings from a writer who is actually deploying empathy? I am so confused by this position.

If the writing was nasty and exposing specifics, sure, but it very much is not.

To address the meta question of whether you "should" do this or not I think it's worth considering the world when these choices were made. The choice used to be (essentially) ruby/python vs. c++/java. C++ and Java absolutely suck (imo) to write all day. Whereas python and ruby are more of a joy. So you get to hate your environment and language all day for the eventual upsides of having a large codebase, or you get to enjoy your day to day with a big problem waiting for you if you hit the success metric of having a large unwieldy codebase. Most startups it's so obvious that you'd choose the first one. Then you can hire the masses to fix it later!

Maybe with languages like Go we can have both now?

you know what they say.. hindsight is 2019.. :D

Calling it unusable seems like unnecessary hyperbole. That said, it does seem like a step backwards! Do these things get A/B'd with static signup pages? Surely they are going to lose some signups for this. Maybe they don't care!

The VB developers I knew used the exact same super high quality IDE to start learning C# and a lot of the concepts either transferred or they would have had to learn them anyway to hop to VB.NET so.. this all just feels like normal forward progress to me.

I know rust compile times aren't great but.. are they WORSE than C++?? yeesh.

What if the top comment wasn't the MOST cynical take possible at any given time? :D

What is cool about HN though is that maybe an Apple engineer will show up anonymously and give us the low down about why. In my short experience at Apple there were plenty of problems but NOT shipping things to customers to make money was not even remotely one of them. Bending over backwards on ancient radars to support the iPhone 6 sucks up an enormous amount of time!

I think gofmt will fix this for you?

Is it possible they just can't make enough? I know I work for a big company that would have purchased a metric ton of these but they simply couldn't get them.

If you present yourself as well in person as you do in your writing it seems like you could tell the story well and people would be endeared to you. What is keeping you from these roles?

Kinda seems like if you hate it you could go back to building services really easily. No real downside to giving it a shot! Unless I'm missing another trap door it feels very reversible. :)

You might even be able to return to your old company if you hate it. Tell them directly "hey I need to give this a shot but I'd love to check-in in a year".

huh - if you disable this in the keyboard settings it still persists? Is it a browser input issue? not fun :D

easily disabled which is good!

Count me as another "will buy an f-150 lightning if they will take my money but not if I have to go through a dealer". I don't know how many of us there are but I really hope enough that I never have to go to a dealer again.

I don't know why who or what I simp for is on trial here. You have no idea what I own stock in. Maybe my big simpin' is a perfectly valid repsonse? Simpin' aint easy, that's for sure. For the sake of ending this inane argument, let's say I simp YC supes hard, but it's for personal reasons I'd rather not share.

Now that we have that out of the way, do you have any facts to hold up your baseless claims?

"...this seems like something to send more paying customers to its network of YC backed businesses."

Is a baseless conspiracy. Back it up with facts! If you can, we're all here to listen. Accusing someone of being a simp because they think your argument is baseless and weak is not a great way to strengthen your argument.

Often when there are two (or more) very good tools for a single task (e.g. editing text) there breaks out a Holy War, rather than people being happy for each other to use their preferred, each excellent in their own way, option. Seems to me this is what the parent comment is nodding to.

Causing a bunch of pain for the user because of a theoretical thing that should be true doesn't help that thing become more true. I feel like we as a people (programmers) fall for this trap too often. Incentives have to be aligned so perfectly for this kind of thing to work.

For young people at an economic disadvantage it can completely change the course of your life to work at a high tech salary for a decade. It can free you up to do the work/art/anything that you're more interested in.

But yeah I don't know if "should" is real here. If you're greatly compelled to do something else, go do that.

I think they were implying that if they are horrified that the universe doesn't have a plan for them that therapy could help relieve them of that pain.

A lot of these pieces of software were terrible! RIP to the one's people miss I guess but.. man. I don't miss a lot of those.

These kind of comments without more context really serve to confuse the situation. If you only ate 1400 calories a day (a brutal challenge for lots of people) and you didn't lose weight it's because your BMR is 1400.

So.. are you 5'2" female or a 6'3" male? 1400 is (potentially) appropriate for one and brutally low for another. Gained fat FAST after eating more? Well sure if you went from 1400 to 2800 and your BMR is 1400 that's gonna make anyone gain weight. Faster than your normally would because your metabolism changed based on your previous input? That doesn't track with conventional knowledge.

The material they are made of is an interesting thing to call out here. Does it offend you that this $2k machine also relies on plastic keys on its keyboard?

The author just figured it out and shared already, no need to figure it out!

No college would ever allow this. Everyone would want their own custom network config? Just doesn't scale and the support would destroy an already grumpy and overextended staff.

Lying on resumes is so common, how on earth did someone go to jail for it?

I (white kid) grew up on the west coast of the US and played Spades growing up with my family. None of my friends knew Spades, but it seemed like everyone knew Hearts. My mom grew up on the east coast so I always kinda thought that she brought it with her out west. Had no idea it was cultural in other ways!