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Thank you all for your comments. I'M still undecided. It looks like a tie between Dell and Lenovo. Hmmm. Ill wait till Black Friday

which System 76 laptop do you own? I was considering getting one, but Im concerned about the service since I live in Northern Ontario Canada

Yes. I too feel like they are over priced and stuck in place where the manufactures don't know what sell or what price to sell them as. Im going to search for Laptops with an HDD and see what I find. Im looking at Dell and Lenovo right now. But I am leaning towards Dell cause of the problems with Lenovo and SSDs and BOIS with RAID options.

Thank you. I haven't thought of looking at a HDD model and buying an SSD.

I am going to look into that right now.

7 months is a long time in tech. Ubuntu 16.04 was't around then either. Im Interested in some recent pro and cons

Yeah. I have looked at this as an option. thanks