danny_codes

A luxury for the wealthy now, unless you want struggling to be your hobby. But not that many people have 60+ hours of cognitive work in them indefinitely

Ummm. No.

Capitalism is generally defined by the market effect. Information about what people want is collected by sales. This information informs sellers about what to make. That’s its primary feature.

By definition, this ignores externalities.

Here is a simple example. I am a taxi driver. The market sets the price of my services. When I drive, I emit CO2 into the atmosphere. I do not pay for CO2 emissions. It’s an externality of the transaction.

Capitalism has no way of measuring (getting a price signal) on the externality. So under capitalism, that externality doesn’t exist.

Bro. My parents don’t know what an IP address is. Apple is great for them, because Apple handles all the myriad complexity of computing for them.

If you want to be responsible for your own compute security, you can run Linux.

IMO this is a good balance: hobbyist or professionals who know what they’re doing have an OS, and people who don’t care can go to Best Buy. Everyone wins

Forgot your /s

Neat. Wait 3 months for the landscape to change entirely.

LLM development is jumpy. It’s hard to extrapolate very far ahead.

“Careless people”

But realistically, it’s the lack of any meaningful enforcement of ethical behavior. I mean it’s not like the Trump admin is going to prosecute criminality. More likely they’ll send a gift basket congratulating Scam Altman on a con well done.

I work in robotics. You are sadly mistaken. There is exactly a 0% chance that humans are still using wrenches by hand in 2076 (unless there's some global collapse from climate change / war)

Welcome to capitalism. Externalities are your problem. Profit is theirs.

100%.

This isn’t a sacrifice, it’s a career move. If you got lucky and “made” $20M by signing a contract at the right time, then you’re done working for other people.

What does that have to do with AI? People suffer in 2026 because the developed world is into exploitation. Poverty is a feature. How do you think AI gets trained? It’s via exploitation of the poorest.

Poverty is great for OpenAI

> What debt are we incurring?

The public debt, obviously.

> If I stop working and don't pay tax, I didn't rob you.

Depends if you have income from capital.

> Me paying less tax doesn't rob you.

Depends on the tax code.

> Stupid spending of your taxes on things you don't need or want robs you.

Fair.

The argument comes down to the "fairness" of society. What level of taxation is "fair"? There's probably not a single right answer.

However, there are answers that result somewhat deterministically in rising inequality. So for those of us who don't want to live in a highly inequitable society, there is a "more right" answer.

Now, I'm sure other people (presumably people who are doing well under high inequality) would think the "right answer" is to increase inequality as much as possible.

Personally, I don't think that kind of society would be very nice to live in.

Fascinating. Does this include inheritance, or is that an exception to your rule.

But _you_ are tax positive I assume, and therefore are picking up the bill. When FB tax dodges, we incur debt that _you_ will pay for. Perhaps indirectly, but you are paying for it as a taxpayer.

By "avoid" I mean avoid the intention of having a progressive tax system, not like legal tax avoidance. I know we wrote in plenty of legal loopholes to classify income such that rich people can pay less.

But it's not even the case that rich people pay capital gains necessarily. It's very easy to live off debt and never realize gains. When you die, your basis resets and you never pay any taxes ever.

This is how people like Bezos and Trump have years where they don't pay any taxes at all.

I disagree, there’s a lot of fascinating problems in pure robotics.

God isn’t going to follow anyone’s directions. There’s no reason to think making God gives the maker any advantage. Perhaps it’s a disadvantage, if God didn’t want to be made.

Anyway seems stupid to me

“Innovative infrastructure”

bro it’s a data center. This is commodity hardware. Nothing innovative is happening here. Meta is abusing the tax code and hoping their lobbying efforts shield them

It doesn’t work. Read Piketty’s book. Capital taxes would work, but income taxes are easy to avoid for the rich.

Who picks up the bill? I remind you we are -1.8T a year in cash flow.

Hint: you pick up the bill

I mean this is clearly a huge stretch. Presumably the intent of this law is to incentivize novel innovation. In this case we incentivize nothing. Data centers are commodities.

I don’t see the connection between the utility monster concept and poor people.

Also I’m confused, do you want a regressive tax system?

I hate to break this to you, but it’s the same people. Zuck pays lobbyists to pay off his politicians, who write in the loopholes Zuck wants. The US is considered a “flawed democracy” for a reason. The current tax system is designed plutocratically.

I will call out cronyism when I see it, regardless of whether bought politicians have decided it’s legal or not.

Let’s not be naive here.

I never understood this race to AGI thing. Why is this desirable for shareholders? If God is created, it seems very unlikely God is going to work for shareholder value.

So 6-18 months.

Works until you run out of money. I work in AI robotics. Yes, it’s promising. No, nobody is deploying anything remotely useful for a while.

Their original strategy to make a mass market Model 2 after Model 3 was good. 8 years ago I was eagerly awaiting its release.

Then sometime around when the Ketamine began flowing the plan seems to have changed.

So I would add ketamine to politics.

What’s weird about all this is that the democrats were pretty pro-Tesla / pro-SpaceX before Elon Ketamized the Fed. And the democratic platform would have improved industrial policy via-a-vis renewables.

We can only conclude that the Ketamine haze addled his brain and he simply ignores the advice of those around him.

That a common failure mode

Tesla isn’t interested in being a car company. That’s pretty clear from the fact they only sell 2 cars and some sort of dump truck. Though I don’t see people using the truck’s trash capacity too fully, generally only the driver’s seat is filled with detritus.

Grok isn’t part of Tesla.

> When making this statement, you need to provide answers for the resource allocation question that both comment above didn't answer.

Why? Do movie critics need to be directors to critique? Obviously not.

> While you can't do this, capitalism is not failed, outdated, or antiquated.

Why? Capitalism is clearly failing the world. Being outdated is I suppose a relative perspective. I view it as outdated because it doesn't meet the needs of our current technology. Remember that economic systems are a function of available technology: they exist only in a social context. Our technology has already reached the point where capitalism is counter-productive.

I would love to have a replacement system ready to go. My hunch is it will require a lot of compute.

There’s no reason a priori to think capitalism more efficient or better for common utility functions (growth, human wellbeing, planetary sustainability).

A “planned economy” is very vague. Usually people imply a central committee deciding what to do. Our economy relies on plutocrats to decide what to do. At what point of plutocratic concentration would you call the US economy planned? My point is all these terms are fuzzy.

My point is that capitalism as is practiced in America is a failed ideology. From the vantage of the present day, it appears painfully antiquated. A pathetic vestige of a less civilized world.

It’s interesting because America had the opportunity to lead the journey to the next organizing principle for socio-economic, but instead decided to get stuck in the past. Pathetic, but standard course. I think it’s because our leadership is in their 80s.