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it's always funny the mental and grammatical gymnastic people will go through just to not say "but who will pick the cotton??!!"

And what does it have to do with foreigners illegally coming to do these seasonal jobs? People who were here when it became US territory just became citizens.

How does it apply to the specific case mentioned in the parent? How does it relate to illegal workers who somehow are now "trapped" in the US because some weird fringe program was stopped?

What are you talking about? Can we avoid the Reddit/twitter style of comment? If you have an argument or a point to make just make it.

Is this one of these stupid "yeah 300 years ago this used to be on that land!!!" argument? Buddy, if so, stop living in the past. Territories are conquered all the time everywhere throughout the entirety of History.

Plus, this has nothing to do with current immigration laws.

> it was ended abruptly, giving migratory workers no choice but to stay illegally

Or they could have "moved back south" like you said, and stayed there.

Since this "program" was ended it sounds like it should be as simple as "no papers? gotta go".

Funny how democrats always care so much about "the law" and "due process" until it relates to immigration.

Yes, this is exactly the point of the post, good job.

Isn't it the point of the post though? Why challenge yourself to learn how to spell if AI can just fix it for you in 2 seconds?

Lotta "Europe is already working on it!" points in here, missing the fact that it's been in the work for a long time, and maybe let's wait until it's actually deployed to count the cows. Over the past decades a lot of things have been "in the work" in Europe and never really went anywhere. It's very easy to "put things in the work".

Until security forces the password manager session to expire after 1 hour, and forces the master password to be 16 char long with a combination of lower, upper, digit, punctuation, moon phase, astrological sign. And then they force you to change it every 2 months, and you can't reuse it until the next time Halley's comet is in the solar system.

You're missing the systemic problem the parent is talking about.

For a while now, "tech" has been solving problems that don't really exist. Having to scan a QRcode to read a restaurant menu, having to use a kiosk to order your fast food while the employee is standing right there but can't take your order, connecting your fridge to the cloud, etc. Why do I need an app on my phone to control my sprinklers instead of just a panel in my garage?

Of course it helps reduce costs and increase profit for corporations, but it solves nothing for end users. Every new "tech thing" also feels like a stupid charade for a manufactured "need".

And the interesting part is that health care is mostly privatized, while education is mostly public. So the private/public conversation may make very little sense.

Which votes exactly led to that?

Thanks for the good laugh.

Interesting that you didn't feel the need to say what your "nation" is, or their nation BFFs. It would have allowed us to dig into real data, but no, let's just use feelz instead :)

People are people, and nation states are nation states. These are different entities.

Nations don't have friends, they have interests.

I read it all, and the central theme seemed to be more about collecting random thoughts/memories rather than "lives", with a final twist about the apocalypse or something like that.

You really need to stretch quite a bit to find similarities between this post and this short story.

And since you incorrectly assumed that I didn't read it, I'll give you more unsolicited feedback. Yes the writing is horrendous, but the idea itself is not novel or thought provoking. The general idea has been done many times in the classics like Dick, Asimov, Chiang and others. And the twist at the end ("Oh my god! They couldn't see things in the future because there is no future!!!!!") is immediately predictable when they can't get samples in the future.

That being said, keep writing and enjoying yourself but 1) try to dial down on the AI assist, it really makes for a poor experience for the reader, 2) don't get on your high horse when someone points it out.

What does the short story have to do with the scenario exactly? Seems completely unrelated.

And OMG, you need to edit the AI slop way way more. This is unreadable.

Brexit also impacts 12 year olds.

>And if your thought is that 16 year olds don't have the education yet to understand the implications of something so big, I'd say they're much better informed than most people over 60 who are consuming Facebook AI slop and believing it wholesale.

Care to back this claim?

Were these conditions implemented in a referendum to join the EU?

That's the policy we have at my work. Use AI if you want, as long as people can review it and if it breaks, don't go blaming Claude, it's your fault.

"Decency" is subjective so I don't really see the point of debating it. The rules were 1) clear from the beginning when it comes to a status being temporary and 2) always potentially subject to change since countries change their policies all the time. To be honest, that's the only objective thing to look at.

Duration has nothing to do with it. One should not buy a house while on a temporary visa, period. You should not feel entitled to stay in a country just because you've been there X years on a temporary visa.

If someone gets permanent residency in a country I see no problem if they want to buy a house after 6 months, more power to them.

The abnormality is this idiotic 10+ years time that people are allowed to stay on a temporary visa. This is what needs to end. This is what makes people entitled - understandably I would even say. People are foolish, but I still blame the game, not the players.

Grew up in one for ~25 years, lived in 2 for roughly 1.5 years each, then moved to the fourth for the past ~15 years. Married with 2 children. What's your point?

I never even thought of buying a house or "build a permanent life" in a country before I was given permanent residency with no condition. And even then, I worked as fast as possible to get citizenship. When you are a guest in a country you don't assume they'll keep you around forever.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make now. Companies are free to open an office wherever as long as 1) they hire local talent over immigrants 2) they are willing to deal with whatever policies countries put in place to "fight" offshoring.

A company can decide to open an office in India where there is cheap talent as long as they pay the taxes put in place by US/EU governments to prevent offshoring. That's the game.

Maybe try to express yourself a bit more clearly, because once again, I have no clue what your point is now.

"dox yourself" by saying which country you live in? Dude, you're funny.

Yes immigrants are a tool. Immigration is a tool for countries to fulfill their interests. If a country needs carpenter, targeted immigration is a way to get carpenters while internal policies kick in to compensate for the gap (e.g. promote the specific trade).

Spreading culture is stupid. Successful countries nowadays are the most culturally/racially homogenous. The whole "diversity is a strength" is just a religious mantra that has been disproven by empirical data for decades now.

So the US is being very selfless here and deciding that all these "exceptional" migrants should instead improve their own country. Pretty noble of the US if you ask me.

I love comments about "my country" who never identify it so you can't look it up to really understand what their "wonderful policies" are...

Stopping immigration is a priority yes. A job would contribute equal taxes if a current permanent resident was doing it. Unemployment is an issue, there is no need for more immigration.

The smartest and most talented can still come, there are specific visas and pathways for them.

Also, let's not be as childish as assuming that policies that were good 100+ years ago for a country should be good ad vitam eternam. Countries change, their interests change, therefore their policies should change accordingly.

H1B makes no sense anymore when the conversation is how many jobs will survive AI.

Immigrants don't work?

> Companies want the best candidates they can get, and the larger the recruitment pool, the better.

Did you write this with a straight face? Companies want candidates that are good enough for the lowest possible price.

Yes, US citizens are more entitled to be employed for US based jobs than importing someone from a different country to do the job. If Google wants an office in Zurich then Swiss candidates there should be more entitled instead of asking Switzerland to import foreign workers to fill the positions.

Yes, the world today is not as it was 26 years ago. That seems pretty obvious. Countries change, governments change, national interests change. What was good for the US 30, 50, 100 years ago may not be good for the world of today. How is that a problem exactly?