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echelon··on Kentucky man becomes the first humanist granted religious exemption from AI
If they do, they're behind the curve. They don't matter anymore.

Systems design, architecture, database fundamentals, a bit of SRE. That matters. Not coding and syntax and toy problem solving with data structures and algorithms.

echelon··on Kentucky man becomes the first humanist granted religious exemption from AI
The job is to automate the enterprise, keep things safe and reliable, and make money for the company.

It was never about software. That was just the means.

Even in the software era, fads developed and tech stacks changed frequently. Now it's just moving a hundred times faster.

You need smart systems thinkers to do this. That's the role. Be smart in managing processes and complexity.

I'm not going to give coding interviews anymore, but I am going to give architecture, systems design, and SRE interviews. People still need to know how not to fuck up a database and how to design scalable and resilient systems.

echelon··on Kentucky man becomes the first humanist granted religious exemption from AI
Coding interviews don't matter anymore.

Every part of your existing job is transforming before your eyes.

If you cling to definitions and static roles, you're going to have a bad time.

echelon··on 'Forced out': HOA fees to rise to $2,500 a month
Often times you want an HOA. But you want limits on what the HOA can do.
echelon··on 'Forced out': HOA fees to rise to $2,500 a month
This isn't a "subscription service". This is a home. It's a significant portion of most people's net worth.

Most HOAs exist to do common area maintenance and make sure neighbors don't paint their house purple, install neon exterior lights, and chase away buyers.

This is something else entirely. It's malicious theft.

echelon··on 'Forced out': HOA fees to rise to $2,500 a month
No one will buy your property when they see the HOA monthly dues are that high.

Freddie and Fannie won't even underwrite loans if the HOA dues are that high. That takes 70% of home buyers out of the market.

With no buyers and no ability to pay the HOA dues, homes go into foreclosure and the HOA gets to take possession of the homes.

This is beyond evil and states need to outlaw this behavior.

echelon··on 'Forced out': HOA fees to rise to $2,500 a month
They don't have voting power nor the power to air grievances in the HOA meetings.

States need to step in and pass laws against this. Georgia recently passed laws to prohibit what HOAs can do and how much they can charge. It also made them register with the state and remain in good standing to be able to collect dues at all. Other states need to follow suit.

echelon··on 'Forced out': HOA fees to rise to $2,500 a month
Read the article. The HOA was a few hundred a month. Now it's 10x as much.

Apparently the developer owns half the homes and has voting power.

This isn't the homeowners' faults. This is beyond predatory.

This shit needs to be illegal, and the company doing this needs to pay.

echelon··on Genie 4
The internet has become a privacy and rent seeking hell hole.

It used to be a lot different.

Look at companies trying to build more things that pull value into their private cloud offerings.

echelon··on Genie 4
It's another closed world model.

Only open weights matter.

We should distill everything else we can into open weights.

These are exciting for robotics and industrial perhaps, but they have no consumer use case until the lid is blown off and consumers can do whatever they want with them.

So much societal progress is behind held up because the leading labs want to keep a stranglehold on the tech. Imagine if every PhD or hacker had access to the raw weights.

echelon··on CorridorKey 2.0
Audacity and Libreoffice aren't exactly the best pieces of software, and they're not supporting much of anyone.

I fundamentally understand what the Corridor Crew are doing here and know that it supports them. Yet they're not being overbearing or stifling the community.

echelon··on CorridorKey 2.0
Open source is not always sustainable.

The OSI was created by the hyperscalers to pilfer free work from the commons.

Redis and elastic got owned by GCP and AWS because they went for OSI purity. The OSI is the hyperscalers.

Good fair source is more like shareware. The community can do whatever they want. Companies trying to profit must give back or pay to play.

Developers need to be compensated. It shouldn't be a labor of love that gets commercialized by hyperscalers whose own products are not open source.

The Corridor Crew model here is fantastic. As are fair source licenses. That's the way we should have done things all along.

echelon··on F-Zero X on Nintendo 3DS
I don't think we're going to agree on this.

Electricity shut down hunting whales for oil, cars shut down horse whip makers, etc. That's just progress. Like shopping malls, Blockbuster, buffet restaurants -- everything has its time.

There are more games being decompiled now than ever before, and the leap in accessibility is tremendous. While this may dilute your community and its practices, and while it may look like an Eternal September, it is bringing orders of magnitude more people into the fold. And that's worth a lot more than you're giving it credit.

Math, science, bio, and certainly CS and software engineering are going to change. That's progress. Nothing should stay the same forever.

I'm happier to see the world morph into something exciting during my lifetime rather than have slow and modest progress up until I die. I feel a bit like the people who were born early enough to witness the Wright brothers and who ultimately lived to see people walk on the moon. I'm glad tech is doing something like that rather than just having decades of uninspiring incrementalism.

I'm sorry you don't share the same outlook, but I promise there's a silver lining in this if you look more closely.

People are going to get closer and closer to owning their technology. The value of code is plummeting, and that means that in time these claims over our software will erode to nothing.

I would focus your energy on making sure we have open weights parity with the foundation models. We need to have a seat at that table. That is the real threat to our freedom and future, not petty IP squabbles or software rights.

echelon··on F-Zero X on Nintendo 3DS
You're not harming the community. Don't let these negative voices stop you.
echelon··on F-Zero X on Nintendo 3DS
You can still enjoy doing things the way you always did. Nothing is stopping you from continuing to enjoy your hobby.

I've wanted to do this but had no time to learn this arcane science. Life is simply too short.

This is opening the world up to more people. You shouldn't be mad at them for coming into your hobby.

People want this. They shouldn't have to do it the way you bless or anoint.

echelon··on F-Zero X on Nintendo 3DS
This is not cool.

Do you not see what you're doing? How do you know they don't think about things? You're attacking with unfounded accusations, and it's incredibly uncivil.

Why are you in this AI thread spewing hate?

Think about it a second.

This is an AI thread.

You do not have to be here.

echelon··on IBM CEO says open weight models are now good and cheap on-prem
I'm stealing this analogy. This is good.

But also look at live service games and the shit modern game studios are doing to try to go back to the old world of rent seeking.

echelon··on IBM CEO says open weight models are now good and cheap on-prem
So you'd like your Windows IIS sever instead of the Linux one?

Happy to sell you some Oracle too.

echelon··on F-Zero X on Nintendo 3DS
The only slop is this anti-progess mindset that memetically propagates everywhere saying the same thing over and over.

People using AI are constantly showing off net new things to the world.

Antis are using the same arguments from 2022 and aren't showing us anything good or cool that they've done. They just complain.

Y'all need to do something worth talking about. This mindset you have is exhausting. Antis somehow find a way of entering every pro-AI conversation and breathing down our necks with hate and misery.

I don't like these bleak views and I don't want to interact with this kind of fist shaking and ground gazing while I'm trying to have a good time using all the new toys. This post was a celebration, and yet here we are again. Why even show up? What is so worth it to you to come in here and complain?

Let us reinvent the web. Let us cure cancer. And instead of chanting "slop" in every corner this is discussed, you can go to Matrix or Mastodon or live on a farm or cut the cords or something. Just don't dump on every single thing we do. You can sit this out on the sidelines.

This thread is about cool AI results - why are you even here? This is our celebration, not an open invitation to complain.

echelon··on America has lost 200k of jobs in media, film and the arts. How much is AI?
> Most of the markets growing the fastest aren't going to relate to blonde movie stars doing car chases around LA in the same way US or western European audiences (the bulk of film revenue in the early 2000s) used to.

Disagree. Good content is good content. International audiences show up for good American films, and Americans (increasingly) show up for good international films.

What are into the blonde movie stars is TikTok.

echelon··on Overgrown, when plants invade your abandoned tabs
I'm working on tab garbage collection too!

https://github.com/echelon/browser-focus

I need to add screenshots.

Basically puts an overlay on all timed out tabs, shows all timed out tabs so you can kill them all together, etc.

I want a better algorithm / heuristic that can semantically track what I'm doing.

I might eventually be brave enough to break out of tabs and let my windowing system handle everything.

echelon··on What goes into making an animated film?
> Legacy entertainment is nowhere as precisely tailored

In some instances, it's even engineered to be broadly appealing. See Disney and Marvel.

On the other end of the spectrum, we have niche-specific creators who appeal to specific genre fans and can package their own tone and taste. That's actually really cool.

It's kind of like what happened to music. Electronic music, the DAW, and home recording opened the avenue for indie artists and all of the various genres.

echelon··on Sabre Wulf Remastered
I miss classic Rareware. DKC and their games on N64 were my childhood. Banjo, Jet Force Gemini, GoldenEye and Perfect Dark.

They struggled to deliver the same pace of development when GameCube came out. Nintendo lost confidence and let Microsoft buy the controlling share [1]. They haven't been the same since.

Dinosaur Planet, an unreleased Rareware N64 title, has recently resurfaced [2, 3]. I've been meaning to give that a go.

[1] This is a fantastic video essay on how the Nintendo-Rareware split happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIt4sSVpors

[2] Here's the trailer of what Rareware turned into Star Fox Adventures. This game feels like it had more soul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKFJx-FQ86w

[3] Some coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkiPTtrunPg

echelon··on America has lost 200k of jobs in media, film and the arts. How much is AI?
This is exactly correct.

Overseas has so much film infrastructure now that Hollywood flies out the entire cast and essential crew (DP, etc.) to work on American productions overseas. They hire cheaper local crews (who are non-union), rent cheaper facilities, and even collect foreign tax subsidies.

It's far cheaper to produce everything in the UK, Eastern Europe, or Asia than it is to film in LA. Or even heavily tax-subsidized states like Georgia.

America can't compete on film production cost anymore. So it's halfway through the process of leaving, except for shots that need to film in iconic cities like New York for certain key scenes. But even then, you might see only part of the production happen in the US.

This started during the pandemic content streaming wars. There was a huge demand for content, American studios were shut down, and Amazon and Netflix dabbled with trying to shoot overseas. They found out the foreign infrastructure was just fine and that they just needed to teach the local crews a few things to be able to lift and shift the entire production pipeline. And it was so much cheaper that the choice to move everything was obvious.

echelon··on America has lost 200k of jobs in media, film and the arts. How much is AI?
VFX has already been outsourced for over a decade. Look at the film credits and you'll see lots of Eastern European and Asian studios.
echelon··on We should be more ambitious with the software we build
You don't pay a milkman anymore.
echelon··on America has lost 200k of jobs in media, film and the arts. How much is AI?
I think I've just got a bigger imagination than the kind of people who can sit down to enjoy Netflix.

Anybody with a big imagination must feel trapped by mediocre content. Daydreams are often more enjoyable.

echelon··on America has lost 200k of jobs in media, film and the arts. How much is AI?
I live in Atlanta ("y'allywood"), a formerly big LA film outsourcing location. They shot much of Marvel and Netflix stuff here pre-2023. The unit below me has been rented to Winona Ryder and Dave Bautista.

Beyond that, my hobby is film and I know tons of people in the industry. I've made indie films with them.

All the jobs have gone to Europe. It's simply cheaper to film there now. Amazon and Netflix built infrastructure and taught local crews how during the pandemic content wars.

Looking at my Gen Z wife, all the eyeballs have gone to TikTok.

There's the answer.

echelon··on America has lost 200k of jobs in media, film and the arts. How much is AI?
Nothing meets my standards. Nothing.

No film, no music, no game.

There's good, but there is no truly magnificent to the level I burst into tears and see the face of God.

Come on people. Your standards are too low.

echelon··on America has lost 200k of jobs in media, film and the arts. How much is AI?
> which people struggling to get by rarely have

The hate for technological advances is so strong that we're wanting... Entertainment austerity for poor people?

Oh my God.

This community needs more hope.

> extraordinarily mono-dimensional take on media and film.

You're telling this to someone who is Meisner-trained, who acts and performs, who has directed, shot lots of films, and who is heavily involved in the arts. A24 is my jam, and even that's not enough to sate me.

I sincerely hope this isn't a performance.

I want better. Both as a consumer and creator in the arts.

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