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Maybe a good rule of thumb is 10-20% of the company could be owned by employees at the time of IPO which could materially change the share price.
Summer 2014 Apigee raises last private funding at a $600M valuation
April 2015 Apigee IPOs at a valuation of $500M
By end of 2015 Apigee closes at a valuation of ~$250M.
So the company lost almost 2/3rds of its value probably right as the lockup period was expiring for employees to sell shares.
Edit: Digging a bit further, it looks like the startup that he sold was Valet Gourmet which was a food delivery business in North Carolina and he worked on it for ~12 years. That's probably a bit longer than the tech startup timelines we tend to think of here.
Name and Principal Position
Year Salary Bonus(1) Stock Awards(2) All Other Total
Evan Spiegel
2016 $ 503,205 $ 1,000,000 $ — $ 901,635 $ 2,404,840
2015 363,715 1,000,000 — 344,756 1,708,471
Imran Khan
2016 241,539 5,239,460 — 14,658 5,495,657
2015 230,000 — 145,292,145 348 145,522,493
Timothy Sehn(6)
2016 400,152 1,000,000 40,000,020 8,348 41,408,520Why's this an argument against AI run hedge funds? Funds run by humans also blow up due to black swan events.
Also 350,000 accounts is hardly "massive" as the clickbait title suggests. No way that can account for more than a small percentage of traffic.
Let's say you're granted about a year's salary in shares when you first join so you've vested $100K for a round number. When you leave that equity is worth $1 million. Now, you have to come to the table with the $100K to exercise and probably another $200K to pay the tax man. If the company goes belly up, you lose $100K outright and are stuck with a $200K tax credit that you get back in $3K per year deductions for the rest of your life.
Or, you could have exercised the shares as you vested and paid a bit less in tax with the lower 409A valuation..but you're still maybe looking at a $100K total tax bill.
Do you take the risk or not? Or do you end up locked in for a few more years of handcuffs while waiting it out?
It'd be really hard for me at least to walk away from this situation with nothing..so then I have to value the equity as something. And if I want to treat it as 0 it'd be really tempting to wait a few years and see..which again means the equity is worth something to me.
It sounds like you work at a hedge fund and are rationalizing...
People said the same thing of snapchat, facebook, and twitter early on.