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and apparently very few on HN in general, seeing how this piece was upvoted.
Google has been studying their process in the last few years and are reaching different conclusions than these guys.
Leave it to the reader to ascertain which group has more validity.
Begs the question, doesn't it?
>> Binary trees are MOST ASSUREDLY on that list
Sure they are... and my intro to CS textbook was ~500 pages. I'll bet I could find something to trip up just about anybody, especially when coupled with the pressure of doing it in front of the class ^H^H^H people that have $$$$/power over you.
He also would've nailed it had he been given 10 minutes to do some research to refresh.
Silicon valley (and the numerous companies that mock the interview style) are testing for the wrong thing when they hire, then complaining about not being able to find good engineers.
Having your factory retool weeks before you launch an unproven product because you don't like the glass? Not very pragmatic.
That's not the Steve Jobs I read about. Like him or not, he was a man of principle.
We want someone who has less than 12 years of MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE. The reason is that if you haven't been coding for 12+ years...you probably are not "hands-on" enough
This arbitrary cutoff makes absolutely no sense. I'd like to see your quantification of skill drop off per year of management.
If what you are wanting is a hands-on technical manager, then you need to say so.
And it shouldn't matter if the person has been hands on for 5 years or 20.
But I feel I'm being a little too generous regarding your motives here.
And yes, it's blatantly ageist... It falls under the disparate impact provision:
"In addition to prohibiting intentional discrimination against older workers (known as “disparate treatment”), the ADEA prohibits practices that, although facially neutral with regard to age, have the effect of harming older workers more than younger workers (known as “disparate impact”), unless the employer can show that the practice is based on an RFOA."
They want someone that has been building engineering organizations for 5-12 years, after having been an individual contributor.
Then, they want you to drop back into an individual contributor role. At least initially. Wink wink nudge nudge.
I don't ever want to get non-technical. I've been a project manager, and found the work excruciatingly boring.
I've been a freelancer, and found the work mind numbingly boring.
I much prefer working for a company where I can be neck deep in designing and building challenging products.
If I'm hiring someone for my team, I need to see skill. Or smarts.
If we're hiring an outside consultant, it's always for technical knowledge that we don't have. Again we need to see skill.
If we need to hire another team lead, it's usually because we have no one to promote from within (either due to experience or lack of volunteers), and again we need to see skill.
I don't hire for marketing, but I'd hope that they also want to see results and could care less if you've programmed before. Indeed it's likely irrelevant.
If you want to see action on this front, someone needs to educate the NRA that metadata provides the government much more information than any gun registration database ever could.
My most irksome comments were "So... Giving mom the day off?" whenever someone would see me with my kids.
The most egregious thing to happen, was being kicked off of the local meetup for playdates... I assume I was approved to join the group because my first name is gender neutral.
Sometime between posting my profile pic (which included my kids) and attending my first meetup, I was removed from the group.
The problem is there's no end, nor can there be an end. It's too nebulous. We have always had terrorism, and always will. Just like the war on drugs or poverty.
And just because Lincoln did it.... That doesn't make it right.
We have the obvious age discrimination... The confusion over faddish languages being innovation... A hasty generalization fallacy...
A good testament that economists shouldn't actually try to apply their theories I'm the real world.