HNHacker News
TopNewBestAskShowJobs

eliasgriffin

4 karma · joined October 15, 2023

https://bio.site/ecg https://www.quadhelion.engineering
submissionscomments
eliasgriffin··on The one database/file/zip to save humanity, what is it?
Information is the most valuable thing in existence, because existence is information! Databases will be even more valuable in a War.

As valuable as Gold is, there is a precious metal that is not only inherently valuable as the most conductive singular natural-form material in existence, it is also an antibiotic - Silver.

eliasgriffin··on The one database/file/zip to save humanity, what is it?
Related:

Major cyber attack could cost the world $3.5 trillion

https://www.reuters.com/business/major-cyber-attack-could-co...

"The global interconnectedness of cyber means it is too substantial a risk for one sector to face alone and therefore we must continue to share knowledge, expertise and innovative ideas across government, industry and the insurance market to ensure we build society’s resilience against the potential scale of this risk,” Lloyd's chairman Bruce Carnegie-Brown said.

eliasgriffin··on The one database/file/zip to save humanity, what is it?
No, I did not mean that although it is both.

References:

(Direct quote) How Gold Is Used In Aerospace: Gold Plating In Satellites https://www.valencesurfacetech.com/the-news/gold-plating-in-...

Biodegradable Gold Nanoclusters with Improved Excretion Due to pH-Triggered Hydrophobic-to-Hydrophilic Transition https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jacs.9b13813

Gold nanoparticles: Synthesis properties and applications https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S101836472...

eliasgriffin··on The one database/file/zip to save humanity, what is it?
> inherently worthless

I think you are misusing this phrase. Gold has the second best electrical conductance, is virtually indestructible, highly biodegradable, a superb heat conductor, and almost impervious to the effects of water, air, and oxygen.

This is why it is heavily used in the aerospace industry and is vital to the exploration of Space.

I'll emphasize a prior point for clarity. Gold Can’t Be Destroyed, only Dissolved.

eliasgriffin··on The one database/file/zip to save humanity, what is it?
Several possible scopes for this database:

1. Foundational - Able to bedrock any other knowledge

2. Comprehensive Civilization - Cover continuation of current society, rebuild info,

3. Comprehensive - Cover continuation of current civilization, rebuilding of civ, Cybersecurity Offensive and Defensive.

4. Extinction Insurance - A savings account for Human Knowledge, a survival toolkit, safe haven, Re-Human Seed File.

It would probably be determined by the process taken as something like this has never been attempted to my knowledge. As a Software Engineer I would Plan A for 4, have a dedicated team for 1 finishing early, to carry that team over and use that knowledge to aim for 3, in which case 2 might be the result.

eliasgriffin··on The one database/file/zip to save humanity, what is it?
Thank you for this awareness! I had to look up so many things you mentioned. I had some mind-explosions analyzing the-eye project. First of all, they were archiving 20k subreddits daily right up until Reddit changed its API. Maybe the-eye was the real reason!

Arxiv for sure. That was the first place I went, however no ability to download the entire database and scraping it would be a project on its own. It begs the question how can we as a civilization "own" our own data and not "rent" it through a website or paywall?

Which brings me to LexisNexus. That is a knowledge store we should all be able to access, crucial information about how the world works! It's only available for Governments and Law Firms...

In my hypothetical the Stackoverflow suggestion is on-point and would also be invaluable right in line with your AI strategem. We'd need some way to categorize, and order all that information to make it applicable would be the challenge I would think. Further, using your game theory of AI, it would need to also be in defense computer system ingestible maybe in real-time, so it would not be available/discoverable/decipherable/hackable up until the moment the data needed to be used. Some kind of OCR oracle for paper to digital "process" for AI defense.

I'm still following your breadcrumbs, I could say more!

eliasgriffin··on The one database/file/zip to save humanity, what is it?
My literal first thought was that at the very least, someone had already collated SciHub. I would consider that maybe the most essential piece of the database.

Your LLaMa2 suggestion was very thought provoking and meritorious, there might be some path forward with something like that, even if for some neutral knowledge steward AI to be the Interface of the Database.

AIDBI?

eliasgriffin··on The one database/file/zip to save humanity, what is it?
Some thoughts.

I should give this topic some time to brew an answer, but at some point we ought to ask ourselves, why don't we have such a thing?

If we were to construct this database, should it not be on the level of the Human Genome Project, but open sourced? Should it not be more fundamental to have this easily transmitted database, maybe even Unified Design, than Defense Budgets and the Billions that must've gone into the Antarctic GitHub vault? Ideally, the platform of world-wide human ownership of this project should have been initialized and set up for us to complete by, like, I dunno the U.N. or like funded by all Governments and Corporations as a good faith initiative?

Tangentially, let's also suppose that we are not alone in the Cosmos is probable enough to merit effort to enter the next phase of simply sending a Clarke-like DNA/Planet position plaque? Should we not prove our evolution and broadcast this supposed database into space in a loop? The Ascension Beacon?

The excellent comment @speedghost got me thinking about the human interface with AI from a different perspective. Why is the AI public focus on language models, but not knowledge models, how to think about thinking. Is that not "the trick"? Could Humanity not use this itself to better learn to learn? How to categorize, or order, knowledge about knowledge (metadata) is "thetadata" (thinking data)?

Thoughts about a potential Human Knowledge Database. Wikipedia is a mess and is not fit for this purpose in many ways, but the main one is contains sparse info on how to do anything. If the goal is to make the database the most efficient (small size) as it can be, and Unified Design, for all Humanity, we might need some kind of new "motion illustration" format that consists of pictures that are flat files but can be post-sequenced, to create a "movie" with the lowest possible file size, and using vector graphics only? Brainstorming.

That makes me think the database should be some sort of flat file database that is also indexed, and that index can be easily Human parsed or DB software parsed. Quite a feat for 100GB. That is not my lane, maybe it already exists.

I'm holding out hoping there is literally one person out there who already has the seed for this, maybe even already has a project going.

eliasgriffin··on The one database/file/zip to save humanity, what is it?
C'mon, there has got to be an information store out there maximal to the preservation of human knowledge better than Wikipedia. If I were an Alien I would be stunned. Such technological advancement but no one can name "the database"?

There used to be an open source database file around 74-76GB db devs/admins trained on, encyclopedic, it was well known in that crowd. Anyone know what I mean? I know that's not much to go on but I cannot for the life of me remember the name, keywords, or find it on the internet.

Represent HN!

eliasgriffin··on The one database/file/zip to save humanity, what is it?
Of course the first answer, Wikipedia! I have the link!

(Offline Webpage Friendly Kiwix format) 102.62 GB uncompressed ZIM file format https://download.kiwix.org/zim/wikipedia_en_all_maxi.zim

Two problems with Wikipedia 1. It is absolutely full of unnecessary knowledge 2. It contains little knowledge of how to do anything

We'd be in big trouble! All the celebrity bios, corporate history, could probably half that to be essential. That's 50GB left!