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Since you're attacking me personally,

> Does this person have any experience building and releasing software that wasn't built and released for them by a robot?

I built https://github.com/heyputer/puter. What have you done? Because your GitHub is pretty empty: https://github.com/etchalon, and your company's website doesn't redirect to https. Doesn't inspire much confidence when you're not even doing the basic stuff right, does it?

yeah, I'm aware. working on it.

Thank you for trying them out :)

additionally, somewhere in the agent prompt i asked it to maximize app functionality without the user having to sign in. for most office/creative/engineering apps this should work very well in the long term (fingers crossed)

true. we're throwing our hat in the ring too and some people like it, some don't. regardless, more options for everybody...

makes sense. some people like this project and are waiting for it to get better. it's a free market, you can use whatever you like most.

it'll get better over time. Give it some time!

I think eventually the smaller focused tools will win the market by a wide margin. But for now, there is huge demand for open-source and free alternatives to mega apps. Especially for the education/non-profit sector.

> shoving all of these ...

I feel like you're being snarky but, regardless, I'm curious to hear your reasoning for the first paragraph. being a monorepo helps us share code across 50 different apps without falling into a submodule/dependency hell.

can I do a PR for live collaboration? to be transparent, I'm going to use my own project puter.js for webrtc, but the project is open-source (https://github.com/HeyPuter/puter)

Repo: https://github.com/heyputer/blender-wasm

I think it's either an automated account or just karma-farming at the highest level lol

what do you mean? we're a team of 10 and have 390 contributors. We post regularly, including me.

I wrote that and I think you're right. We were trying to convey that you don't need to set up anything, but the wording could definitely be better. I'll change it.

Puter's networking is open-source and e2e encrypted. Also, a regular browser doesn't give access to raw TCP sockets used for this, so it wouldn't be possible to route through your browser.

should've used this in the splash screen :(

Hello! I'm the founder. Your understanding of how Puter.js works is correct. We call it the "User-Pays Model" [1]: in short if you build your app using Puter.js, users cover their own infra cost, not just limited to AI. The idea is that infra cost will become essentially free for the developer.

As for user resistance, we haven't experienced that yet. I think generally for a user the puter.js experience (hopefully) beats the alternatives: 1) "give me your OpenAI API KEY to try my app" 2) Entering your credit card information in yet another app. Both of these also help apps as well, at the very least when it comes to conversion since you don't have to ask the user for their API key or credit card in many cases, not to mention you don't have to build metering, billing, rate-limiting, API key management, etc.

P.S. we're open-source: https://github.com/HeyPuter/puter

[1] https://docs.puter.com/user-pays-model/

Yes! definitely. Please stay tuned :)

I work on Puter (https://github.com/heyPuter/puter/); an open-source, self-hostable internet computer.

People use Puter for an incredibly wide range of things, including cloud storage, web hosting, coding, AI, and gaming. Right now, we're mostly focused on improving performance and making sure that it's as fast as a regular desktop environment!

Thank you so much! We are working on a Linux emulator that would allow you to run most programs. It's currently a bit behind but coming out soon :)

Working on Puter (https://github.com/heyPuter/puter/), the Open-source Internet Computer!

Building desktop environment in the cloud with built in cloud storage, AI, processing, app ecosystem and much more!

Shameless plug for my project: https://github.com/HeyPuter/kv.js

Don't kill me :')

chatgpt

Integration code is open-source: https://github.com/heyputer/photopea-integration

Special thanks to Ivan Kutskir, founder of Photopea, for helping me with this.

I think the moral of the story is to not use Anthropic, specifically. xAI and OpenAI are working just fine. Anthropic is giving me very strong Google vibes were they will nuke you for no reason and no recourse.

hopefully, my mistake will serve as a warning to other developers not to trust these services where things could be taken down arbitrarily! Even though it's happened countless times before.

Puter

https://github.com/HeyPuter/puter

We're building a "Web OS" designed to be feature-rich, exceptionally fast, and highly extensible! It can be used for anything from a Dropbox alternative to a cloud environment for building websites and apps!

Stack: JavaScrips. No frameworks.

Need help with: Frontend and backend.

Reach out: nj@puter.com

Founder of Puter here. Thank you very much for mentioning us!

> Most people are idiots, and being a manager means you’ll have to deal with it, and perhaps more importantly, that they have to deal with you.

> It turns out that while it’s easy to undo technical mistakes, it’s not as easy to undo personality disorders. You just have to live with theirs - and yours.

this was definitely written by Linus XD

When we released our open-source project[1], this hacker (Eva) pentested our project pretty extensively and was very professional in their disclosures. They didn't even ask for a bounty since we didn't have a program back then!

Eva is an incredibly gifted hacker and a responsible one, a16z should treat them better.

[1]: https://github.com/heyPuter/puter/