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I'd live in a confined space with n random coders who are talented enough to be on the ship anyday!

>Perhaps in 10x the timeframe they would producte something of similar capability

I think you missed a few zeros there!.I would argue that most developers would never (yes not even if they spend their entire lives) come up with anything even close to Fabrice Bellard or Paul Graham.

The difference is not genetic but of attitudes and as we all know very people are willing to change their attitudes.

"Thus the organized proletariat after the downfall of the capitalist system was to work for the establishment of state-owned and operated industry, the tremendous expansion of production by freeing it from capitalist restrictions, and the creation of a new psychology in which each would want to perform his social function. All capitalist ideology would be crushed, and all antagonistic differentiation between manual and mental labor (and therefore between town and country and between degrees of skill) would cease."

- An excerpt from "Full Communism - The Ultimate Goal" http://www.economictheories.org/2009/05/full-communism-ultim...

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This gives me so much hope....I think we are going to see a revolution in Art and Media as more of these guys start getting "it"...The days of Big brother and his army of douchebag MBA's is soon going to be over!

absolutely brilliant!

I too agree with you....Your example does prove that it is possible from a finance background!...but I would still point out that your guy had a sound mathematical mind whereas most MBA's and "idea guys" run the opposite direction when they hear any advanced math.

well...I think creating a site like facebook in your dorm room as a college student and scaling it is significantly challenging (you are competing against myspace!)...but thats just my opinion!

But yeah I see what you are saying...Doug and Linus are pure technical problem solvers whereas Mark solved business and technical problems.

Good luck with that....and please....if you can make Bingo Card Creator with your free time I would consider you a highly skilled technical person...Most "idea-guys" have trouble making their wordpress blogs!

Let me clarify what I mean by "rockstar programmer"....A rockstar programmer is someone who is orders of magnitude more productive that the average programmer of his generation....Someone who can build technologies himself that can disrupt entire industries...Some notable examples in this category are Linus Torvalds,Mark Zuckerberg,Doug Cutting,Mark Andressen etc....Now show me someone in this category from a purely business school background!

I am not talking about the business people who want to dig into Javascript (Although I have a lot of respect for the guy you are talking about).I am talking about someone who can build a technology like javascript.

>I stated that they don't summon ideas to it

Thats exactly what I am trying to argue against.

And in that regard the idea of Google is the direct derivative of the idea of DNS....the idea of Facebook is a direct derivative of the idea of having personal computers that can exchange TCP Packets.

You have used Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey to make your argument.Please remember that these guys are among the best engineers of our generation.

As a matter of fact the ideas of almost all of our current technologies came from engineers and not MBAs.(If you think Steve Jobs was not an engineer please read his bio!).Forget computers...Even Henry Ford was one of the best engineers of his generation.

Most of my best implemented ideas (the word implemented is very important!) came to me when I asked myself the simple question...what can I do to help people with all the code that I already have (code = My own code and Open sourced stuff) ?..If there is something small that can complete a great idea I go ahead and code it!

How do you intend to prove that Larry Page and Sergey Brin were the only humans who thought of that way of ranking links.?

What I can prove is that they were the first humans to come up with a technological system that implements that.

>Engineers do not gather in a room and summon ideas to their pre-existing code.

Everything we build is on top of pre-existing stuff.If there was no mysql/php,there would be no facebook.If there was no OpenBSD,there would be no iOS.If there was no dns there would be no Google.

The mentality that anything is possible and you just need a nerd to do it is exactly the reason why I have a hard time working with non-technical people!

I was just giving my objective and honest personal opinion about Android...Whether any value can be gained from it depends on the person reading it.

What can be said for certain is that there is definitely no value to be gained from your comment...:)..peace!

A tech-nerd becoming a good businessman is not that common but we have seen many examples and we know its not that hard to do.(Take Eric Schmidt or Bill Gates for example).

Please give me ONE (I repeat ONE!) example of an MBA becoming a rockstar programmer....The fact there is possibly no one like that should give you a teeny tiny glimpse at the future!

I agree with some of the author's argument but he seems to be missing the logical fallacy in the use of the word "undesign".

Thats equivalent to arguing that a flat screen tv is obtained by "undesigning" a TV from the 90's and thus there is no real innovation involved!Simlarly a laptop then was made by "undesigning" a desktop computer!

Yes an iPad is what a tablet should look and feel like but it is so obvious because Apple pointed these seemingly "simple" things out and they absolutely deserve credit for it.

If you go ahead and "undesign" a Boeing 747 airliner and make it work as efficient and smooth as a bird shouldnt you deserve credit for it?

Yes you're right...Stall is not a free fall but a sudden reduction in lift which can occur for instance when the angle of attack increases beyond a certain value.

>how does a plane know it's stalling if the pitot tubes are frozen?

I think it can easily do that by measuring the G force similar to an accelerometer on iPhone.

To be honest I actually agree with you...I do think like a 13 year old and I do absolutely love objective C and iOS.

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As an iOS developer I totally empathize with marco and even I have decided that I will never touch android.Here is why?

(Note : Like most personal reasons these are more emotional than logical.Trying to logically argue with me on this is a waste of time.)

1)The most important reason is that it is simply not a toy I want to play with.If developer X made a million dollars making app xyz then good for him.I dont really care.If I really wanted to make money I would be doing sales pitches instead of coding anyways!I played with an android device for a few weeks and I had to throw it against the wall in frustration a cpl times.

2) Eclipse-Maven makes me want to throw up.

3) Java makes me want to throw up.

4) Android Source code makes me want to throw up.(Especially those Setter and Getter methods ewwwwwwww!).It just looks so much like enterprise software and lacks any love.The guy who wrote ListActivity couldnt make the table bounce?

5) Doing layouts through XML and the fact that I have to literally remember all those xml fields makes my skin crawl!

6) Debugging errors on eclipse (especially those nasty ones in layout.xml or strings.xml) makes me want to become a manager.

7) When you get stuck on hard problems and try to google your way out,it mostly gives you nothing except for official android documentation which I am not really a big fan of.

8) CoreGraphics,CoreAnimation,Cocos 2D...nuff said!

9) Lastly most of my favorite hackers hate it too...I learn fastest by reading code written by expert hackers and in case of android there is really nothing much out there to be inspired from!

Our brains are much more complex data processing systems than we or even the latest neuroscience research can fathom...my advice would be to just keep reading whatever and whenever you feel like it...leave the analysis and processing to your brain!

That being said...I also think that going on information diets(vacation to a beautiful place) for a cpl weeks every few months can be very advantageous for very long term memory retention and also for letting the brain derive awesome conclusions from all that information...just like sleeping for 8 hours everyday has been proved to improve short term and near long term memory retention.

seems like you really like the guys who can memorize "cracking the coding interview" and "data structures for interviews"!

I think one subtle difference is that in iOS there is some degree of parallelism even in the UI Updates as they happen in the NSRunLoop of the main thread(main NSRunLoop).

So that an UI Update that is waiting for hardware can be delayed and the next UI update in the loop can be processed.

I dont seem to recall any such pattern for Java main thread UI Updates.

The automation through robotics is causing technological unemployment and a further loss of jobs for the manufacturing class.

I can see how things will get more and more automated but I dont get how it can alleviate the plight of the american middle class.

:)....all the best !

:)....By improving the signup workflow Amit and others who share the same plight will have a better chance at finding a donor....By taking 23andMe data from consenting 23andMe users this process will become so much better that potentially everyone will find a donor(not just famous people like Amit!)

Yes I am that asshole and the world is forced to become better to accomodate assholes like me...:)...peace!

I am a south asian male living in the US.I tried to sign up as a donor.Here is my experience.

>Your password needs to be between 8 and 15 characters long, must contain at least 1 number and 1 letter and cannot contain spaces.

Seriously WTF....I am sure half of the people who wanted to sign up did not just for this bs!

Okay chill...password abcd......

> In the past 5 years have you taken money or drugs in exchange for sex?.. (Men only) In the past 5 years have you had sex, even once with another male?

Half of the people who passed stage 1 probably said "fuck it" at this stage.I am close but am willing to go through this for amit.

> SSN? Driver License Number ? HomePhone ? Current Mailing Address? Permanent Address ? Employer Information ?

Should I also give you my bank account username/passwords?At this point I am really mad!..Luckily the SSN and DL fields are not mandatory

> First Contact Information ? Spouse Information ? Second Contact Information

Grrr....what the fuck!

> Race Information? Not Hispanic or Latino ? Black ? Asian ?

Wtf...take my DNA and figure it out!

After a cpl other irritating forms I am finally able to get a kit sent to my address.

-My advice to Amit's friends would be to please do something to improve the signup workflow.

-Also I have my genome phenotyped with 23andMe.I am totally willing to share it with Amit's Friends or Amit.I am sure a lot of other south asians on 23andMe would be willing too but there is no way to do this!

I think Nikon P7000 is what he meant!

haha i like your poem...How I deal with cannabis is that I never do it alone...only when I get together with old buddies...that limits me to doing it once in a cpl months and with that frequency I find it therapautic for soothing my mind!

thanks for sharing that!