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Socialism is not a definition on Wikipedia. Also, is this a joke: "A non-market socialist system eliminates the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system in capitalism." - that's on Wikipedia? Seriously?

That is the dream version of socialism, not the reality. In reality socialism consistently fails to "eliminate inefficiencies", rather, it does the opposite.

But we shouldn't discuss socialism here, that is true.

I merely stated what would be the reality under socialism (which has been the case in previous attempts to implement socialism), which is that you would be assigned a job and you would be supposed to gratefully do it for the common good, not for personal gains.

I have friends to grow up under socialism. I suspect many Americans simply live to far away from real socialist countries. I guess you could ask Cuban refugees what they think, though.

The argument "we already have all those rules" is not really useful. Apparently the treatment of the Facebook Content Moderators is also legal. So by your logic, it is OK, because we already have those rules.

I don't know why you think "love it or leave it" is a veiled threat. What historical use are you referring to? Of course it is abbreviated. You can negotiate with your boss if you are unhappy. But ultimately, nobody owes you anything. Yes, there are the labor laws and so on, but I think if somebody decides to shut down their company, you can not really sue them for your job anymore.

Line workers can switch jobs if they are unhappy with the conditions. If everybody would do that, companies would be forced to make those jobs more attractive to retain and compete for workers.

Maddening that they don't manage to present clear data points - deliberately, or because they don't know any better?

Like what is the point of comparing flu deaths between January and August with Covif219 deaths in the same time period? Perhaps those two diseases have different seasons? (Maybe not, but they way they present it, it is impossible to know). Perhaps all the flu deaths happen in December and all the Corona deaths in March? (Just an example). Also for example Sweden had exceptionally few deaths last years, leaving exceptionally many people "ripe to die" this year (what Marginal Revolution calls the "Dry Cinder Effect").

Also comparing to averages can also be very misleading. It is in fact to be expected that any given year deviates from the average. It would be very odd if every year was exactly on the average.

Then in the middle of comparing death rates of previous years, they seem to jump to absolute counting of Covid19 deaths again ("The latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show"). When the whole point of looking a death rates of previous years is to establish how many excess deaths were really attributable to Covid19.

What's wrong with "love it or leave it"? That's choice and responsibility.

Jobs are created by people. If you think jobs should be different, create such jobs. Why should anybody else be obliged to do it for you?

Socialism doesn't give you jobs to choose from, it assigns you a job. That you are supposed to do for the common good, no personal gains allowed.