Which small changes are you referring to? We use LLVM/clang and so does Apple. We have ARC, we have properties and other features as well. Be explicit... BTW, I'm the lead maintainer, so I kind of know what is there and what isn't.
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GC -- GNUstep Lead
1) Bring the elegance of easy development to every other operating system... and 2) Give Apple developers someplace else to deploy their applications.
GNUstep is meant to be a drop in replacement for Cocoa. By Cocoa I mean Foundation and AppKit, not all of the Core this and Core that libraries. We have those, but they are less mature than Foundation and AppKit. GNUstep is also themable, as I have pointed out in other responses.
GC
Yeah, I know, right? ;) </sarcasm> It is fully capable of looking like macosx using any number of themes.
Gregory Casamento -- GNUstep Lead
-- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Maintainer
-- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Maintainer
GNUstep is Cocoa now and, apparently, a lot of people thought building apps this way was a good way to build end-user apps... macOS and iOS. ;) -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Maintainer
See the link below... This is GNUstep using the rik theme... Just one of the many ways the project can look:
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/12986802/33520300-...
Gregory Casamento GNUstep Maintainer
Greg C. GNUstep Maintainer
The video IS all I could manage to do. I don't have the equipment or the skills to make a professional looking video.
The second point does make sense, I'm acting on this.
As for the third... he acts like I'm supposed to ask for $10,000 for such a goal. GNUstep is an very large project. Getting it to 10.6 compatibility is going to take time and I can't take the time off of work unless I haver the money I need to make it happen. Asking me to do this for anything less than what I projected is ludicrous beyond belief.
So, yes, I realize where the input comes from and I respect that. I will, however, not simply take those comments and act on them when some of them are unsupportable and untenable.
All of that being said I am planning on adding a video in the next couple of days (most likely tomorrow) of me talking about the project so that people have a face to put to it.
I seriously do thank all of you for your input and I apologize if my responses seem combative. It was my understanding or impression, however, that this was not simply a case of me taking input and mindlessly acting on it, but, instead, a discussion of what's best to help the project succeed and that does include my responses to your feedback.
GC
Please read: http://www.gnustep.org/developers/whoiswho.html
Gregory Casamento
I should point out that there are anumber of companies who have moved their products to Windows using GNUstep. THIS is the point of GNUstep, to allow both development of new projects and porting of existing projects to other platforms without the need for much code change. There are two examples of companies which do this today:
http://www.testplant.com - Testplant ported their EggPlant app (a testing app which is script driven) which is the core of their company to Windows. NOW the revenue from the Windows version makes up more than 2/3rds of the company's revenue.
http://www.apportable.com - Got an Android? Got an android that runs any game which is familiar to you from iOS... well, guess what... chances are these guys probably ported it... and they used GNUstep to do it. GNUstep is currently running on millions of devices out there.
So the sentiment "just get a mac" in this context, makes absolutely no sense at all and, in fact, completely misses the point.
Greg C.
Problem #1, the video is all I could do. I am not very good at doing videos, it's not my profession. I have little time to hire a cameraman or do professional video editing and I'm not all that photogenic to boot, so it might be a good thing you don't see me on camera.
Problem #2: Easily fixable. I can add other incentives while the project is running.
Problem #3: If the goal isn't reached, then it becomes a matter of it's not even something that's reachable since I must have enough time freed (by having money) to complete what needs to be done. Without the time, the work can't be done at an accelerated rate since I will need to continue to do it in my spare time. So, while the funding goal is high, it is not unreasonable for a project this size.