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But where do you go? Retraining is too expensive for decent paying fields to be worth it and there a very few careers otherwise that won’t be a steep lifestyle regression.
Go on steam, not signed in and go to new releases. I promise you there are porn games right there on the first page of results. Often of a very degenerate nature. I don’t even need to be authenticated to see that. But I do need to go out of my way to verify my age, if I click on a call of duty game or something.
I misread that intitially.
At the end of the day, anytime this topic comes up, there’s an oddly large discrepancy between the anecdotes and the BLS data.
Even half of that $100 puts these electricians in the 90th quartile for hourly wages in that MSA. So they’re either sending there most expensive guys or I’m misreading misinterpreting the BLS data.
I suspect the electrician they send over isn’t just pocketing $100/h on wages.
I think there’s bewilderment is mostly from these not being “mainstream” people.
It’s all good. The local community doesn’t need you to build out sites anymore.
I quit doing that when small business owners started expressing that they didn’t need a website, it wasn’t very valuable to them. What they wanted was a nice Facebook page. If they did need a website, it seems Squarespace, Shopify, etc. provides a sufficient offering for them. Cheaper too.
Oh great! I can’t wait for the next generation of unnecessary luxury apps that just provide another lazier way to be a good consoomer.
All while the few necessities that matter, housing, food, etc. become increasingly more expensive and less accessible.
One guy I knew had it in his head he could just go back to school for welding and make 6 figures. Of course that didn’t work out. Turns out the local CC doesn’t have anything for underwater welding. Welding programs for sure, but mostly designed to funnel workers into local, lower paying positions that need filled.
I have a suspicion this push towards blue collars jobs is just another learn to code grift.
Genuine question: Why?
I picked the Cincinnati MSA, as an example, as it’s both bigger than yours and is likely to have unionized work.
BLS says the 90th quartile is still only ~90k which while certainly not bad, is only the top 10%.
A referral.
At least, in my experience a year or two ago. It was impossible to get past initial screenings for jobs I was perfect for on paper.
None of my skills, experience, etc. even mattered. In the end what mattered was getting a nepo referral for a job I wasn’t even qualified for on paper.
You can work his fields in exchange for most of the harvest of course!
The architects of it don’t care, as they will have secured their own feudal power .by the point things get nasty
Good thing you have very few of them because your industry is way too capital intensive to start a competitor now.
I am generally curious what capitalisms proposed solution to this problem is.
I lived there for a few years, and while the river walks were very pleasant, I don’t have much to say about it particularly otherwise.
The job market was pretty bad, basically limiting you to State gov or one of the handful of insurance companies around and state government work is rough (easily the most fulfilling job I’ve had, but the salary was just way too low.
Seems hard to justify with GA and NC markets nearby unless you’re staying solely for CoL or existing ties.
To play off another analogy commonly used in this topic: you are the horse, not the rider. Sure some horses will find new work, at the grace of their owners. Some lucky individuals may even get a carefree life of mostly leisure.
But for many, it’s off to the glue factory, and not for a job.
At the game of producing garbage slop? Probably yeah.
It’s been doing that for at least two decades, yet I’m still waiting for you people to get on with it.
I got pigeonholed quickly into enterprise development, mostly at non tech companies of various sizes.
I knew I never wanted to work as a software dev professionally. I had other plans initially that fell through. However I found myself in a situation where my choices were to struggle off of a low skill job or try and break into the industry have a reasonably comfortable life.
Of course, even that didn’t work out as expected. I was significantly underpaid (even with local COL/salary data in mind), still at least it was a foot in the door and a full time job. My salary came more in line with what someone would expect in a small city around the time, but still barely at the bottom of that range.
Around the time of the COVID glut, I finally landed a six figure job, as well as the closest thing I’ve had to a job ”in tech”. It was pretty decent, but half the company was dumped a year or two later.
I didn’t expect to have much of an issue in the market, ignorant of how bad it really was and with the understanding that with my experience I couldn’t be a total pariah. Instead it took over a year to find a new job and that was solely due to nepotism.
A little bit into my current job, I realized my career was dead. I don’t keep up with the industry outside my day to day anymore, I’m certainly not keeping up with newer fresher people and to some extend miss that enthusiasm. But it really does not interest me anymore. Rarely the tech and never the product.
I’ve thought about leaving before that happens, but I have yet to see a path to something else that I wouldn’t hate just as much.
I figure I’ll either die of from stagnation or AI will replace me or lower that value of my work to the point where the money is no longer worth staying
It’s absolutely insane to me. Worst I’ve ever had in an uber were geriatric drivers who probably shouldn’t have had their license still.