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Yeah Banner Blindness is definitely a thing, it's something to keep in mind with UI design where you can end up making something so in your face that the user just ignores it even harder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banner_blindness

The 8 word title?

Which is why the fitness and (for the apple watch ultra) more extreme and expensive sports like mountain climbing and diving are featured. You get the luxury class of people without looking out of touch with the premium class of people.

So I can start saying that Apple's software is ad-supported now?

The title makes it seem like Keynote is showing ads in the UI, and from the screenshot I see a button that if I press it, will accept my credit card so I can buy a thing.

Just because it's hard to discover things I don't yet own doesn't mean I want them shown to me while I'm making a slideshow.

Agreed, it's the bare minimum to keep them out of trouble usually.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying there's a barrier that's useful to further vendor lock in. My mom is going to use Apple passwords on her iPhone. When she needs a new phone, the complexity of import/export and fear of losing access to her accounts is going to push her to buying another iPhone. It's just another avenue of lock in, like existing OS level password managers, just with an extra level of confusion for the end user.

My issue isn't with the standard, but if all implementations lead to the same shitty experience of 3 different apps begging to store and use my passkeys, then something isn't working right. In my case, the terrible software is Apple's Mac OS, Google's Chrome and/or Firefox, and sometimes Bitwarden still acting weird. Lets not even get into how wild Windows acts when a passkey shows up.

Saying it's an open standard, and that it's just all the major players I'm forced to interact with that make it suck isn't very helpful. That's like the people that say "Don't like iOS? Build your own successful mobile OS lol"

I mean yeah, customer lock in has been Apple's business model for a long ass time, that's not surprising.

I think this is exactly the "Passkeys are a trap" argument though right? If you lock yourself into a single vendor, everything is easy and beautiful. If you choose a diverse set of vendors, it sucks so much more than passwords and password managers ever did.

I'm curious to see if this is true. Also my pixel tablet in the kitchen is very happy being offline, but whatever.

the FAQ indicates this too:

> To unlock a full, personalized experience on HomeView, users need an Apple Account, a compatible iPhone or iPad, and to be added as a member of the shared home in the Home app.

I think there's a difference between something that's engineered and precise vs something that's rickety. Just because you built something that might fall apart at any moment doesn't mean it's been engineered with narrow tolerances.

I dread the day my mom encounters a web app that only allows passkeys. She gets passwords, and importantly, the ability to log in from any PC just by knowing her password (which, yes, is written in a little notebook, baby steps). If she wants to log into her account on some shared PC, she understands that flow, the password is a key that is synced through her typing it in.

If I have to explain Passkeys syncing from her PC where she made the account, to her phone, then to the 3rd PC using some qr code or bluetooth, then we're both gonna lose it. There is value in passkeys, but there's also huge value in a stupid and slightly less secure password that we've just completely abandoned.

Yeah the volume slider wasn't disabled for 2 seconds after opening the dialog, Microsoft should take notes!

If it was trained on HN, there would be a 60% chance of it just saying "I'm so tired of this request, can we please move on"

This guy doesn't want them to die, he wants them to suffer.

> The entire point of punishment is the cruelty

Jesus fucking Christ

10 days, then we come after you with a big cartoon mallet to make you forget.

Same with the always-on transcription feature that you dont even need to interact with. I like not having to speak with extreme precision, knowing my words are going into some record.

Now imagine knowing that they'll go home and be able to see a nice summary of the various conversations throughout the night. Just very normal social behavior, made easy by Apple.

The always on ai summary feature does not, it just does its thing in the background.

This thread is so fascinating, I had no idea that because I'm comfortable having an intimate conversation with a friend means I'm also okay with a potentially permanent AI summary being generated based on it, and without my knowledge or consent!

Jfc the tedium on this site. Sure, no one makes me feel anything, you're technically right buddy.

I don't appreciate Apple normalizing the already creepy ai note takers that exist and increasing the odds that someone will use them in casual or intimate conversations.

The summary feature is always running, and is also creepy to me.

It's gonna make a loud ass chime when you do that, so I don't think that's the use case Apple was imagining.

Sorry, you're right about the transcript, it's the summary that's generated that's still off putting.

And I don't think we can compare this to weirdos being able to record other people, this is about when my friends come over and I have to wonder if they think it's normal to have running since "it's technically not recording" or "the summary is anonymized. It's normalizing behavior that's just a little weird, like people who use those ai recorders. I fail to see how that's not a violation of my privacy in some way.

Also you don't need to point out stupid gatchas about airpods, don't be an ass.

> How is this different from a privacy standpoint of someone simply memorising what you said in the last fifteen seconds and scribbling it down onto a piece of paper?

I would hope to not be friends with such a fucking weird person tbh. But I guess if it's automated into a sexy device it's fine.

I think if someone followed me and my friend around and kept a transcript and summary of every conversation between and around us in a little notebook, I would have a basis to say my privacy was being violated, right?

I feel like I'd also be a little weirded out to find my date referencing the summary or transcript later, maybe that's just me. Like if I said something personal and they whipped out a notebook and wrote it down real fast, that's unnerving.