> Why does it matter?
You asserted further up that "Android uses Linux but it has no consequences for users or developers."
That simply isn't true.
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You asserted further up that "Android uses Linux but it has no consequences for users or developers."
That simply isn't true.
I look forward to "Linux users and/or developers benefit from Android but..."
Painting Apple and Android devices with the same brush in this particular regard doesn't make a lot of sense.
You may want to peruse the various sections of their site before switching to see if you think it'll work for you: https://grapheneos.org/features
That clearly isn't what they care about, or intended with their comment. Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize.
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50061384
How does citing your own prior comment, one which itself offered no justification for its claim, add value of any kind to your response?
"I am become, Source? I Made It Up, destroyer of discourse."
The global horse population peaked in the 1910s.
Doesn't matter. Check out Proton's current stats, and see the Deck's impact on everyone who didn't buy one: https://www.protondb.com
Anyone who cares about Windows->Linux compatibility layers, x86 emulation on ARM, or VR will benefit greatly from the Steam Deck/Machine/Frame ecosystem, due largely to Valve's reported 100+ developers they have making open source contributions in applicable areas.
From SteamVR to Mesa to Proton to SteamOS to FEX, Valve's easily one of the most important Linux contributors these days.
It's that old adage of, anyone who thinks they're a great parent, probably isn't. And almost all kids would be happier with a less wealthy (or even poorer) upbringing, and a tighter family.
The number of wives who have complained to me privately about the lack of family commitment of rock star husbands whom everyone admires (often precisely for their apparent family commitment) was a real eye-opener.
I'm not convinced that stratospheric success in business is very often compatible with high levels of parental and spousal involvement. It is sometimes, but those are anomalies we shouldn't build our fairy tales around. I know very few old-timers who wish they'd spent less time with their families when they could have made the difference of a lifetime.
You used to do the, 'I can never get answers to my simple questions' routine, until I started engaging. Then, every time I say 'you keep doing this,' if I don't provide links, you complain that I didn't provide links. When I do provide links, you either move the goalposts, or drop the thread there. It's happened multiple times. To multiple respondents. You're impervious to most responses, so it's pointless to try.
As I have said before to you, I am completely content to let your comment history speak for itself for anyone who wants to go back and look. It's all there.
> You like to promote GOS
Terrible equivalency. "fsflover" is on here shilling FSF-certified devices multiple times daily, sometimes. Meanwhile, I had to go back six months: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46852121
There was this, three months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47941735
But please let me know if and when I ever recommend it to people who expressed no interest in it, for whom it would be a terrible technical solution! I should be called out on that.
> I mentioned Qubes countless times, too.
You know that I know that, because it often makes me cringe when you do and I step in to clarify. I honestly wish you wouldn't. I've spent absurd amounts of time correcting and explaining comments you've made about Qubes OS this year. You damage the project's reputation with your worse-than-empty one-liner recommendations, turning people off to it. But I've noticed you've made a little more effort lately to stop doing that. Thanks for the effort, really. I appreciate it.
But you still come off as a fanboy, from the username to the comments to the style. I'd honestly be surprised if the net migration caused for your projects was positive. Hopefully it is.
Go ahead and continue to educate people about the Librem 5. I'm happy for people to learn about it if they don't already know. You and your sidekick are eager, even stating the main thing that needs to happen to unlock an open phone utopia is that Purism revenues need to increase. You guys are being totally candid about your intent.
Just maybe act less surprised when comments that come across as misleading or outright shilling get challenged. It's harming your favorite projects' reputation, and it's running the risk of misinforming people for the purposes activism, which is when you know you've crossed over into ultra-activism.
BTW, many of the folks on the Qubes and Purism forums do a significantly better job of discussing the projects. Directing people to relevant threads there frequented by a variety of well-articulated points of view might be a better bet.
> claims of reedom
Now that's just hilarious.
Exactly. You get very precise when you want to paint the device as a panacea of liberty, to the point of potentially misleading people.
The rest of the time, not so much.
How would I know when the firmware needs updating? How can I find when it was last updated?
An egg takes 21 days to hatch.
Then it's 18-24 weeks to start laying their own eggs. That's ~$5-15 in feed over the period, maybe 40-50 pounds. There's utilities, labor, land, etc., but your incremental cost to add a hen if you have the space is minimal. My numbers won't reflect a lot of operators, as scale matters.
Out of a typical 1.5-3 year lifespan that had a startup cost of a few dollars per, paying back its return by about month 6-7, that's not too bad. It's only worth doing financially in this economy at ludicrous, arguably inherently inhumane scales, but that's what it is on paper.
Not quite the same path to course-correction as a silicon shortage.
It really is. First thing I searched for in the thread.
This system is too complex, the few individual players too big, with too many artificial distortions for the adjustment to equalize out in a way that's anything but years-long (it may have shock-waves that extend past the decade), and highly destructive to everyone who isn't OPEC, or their largest customers, in this analogy.
The brunt of it will be paid by the people further down the food chain.
I missed that at the time. I'm flattered that you elevated me to strcat's level, as if your two links are remotely comparative. I'm just a dude hoping to find a viable way out of this tech duopoly hellscape on a reasonably viable and high-performing stack.
The other's a world-class dev who actually built something incredibly polished and robust, something so well-adopted, so well-established that it attracted huge end user donation levels and genuine OEM attention, and now continues on without depending on his daily involvement and contributions, with bespoke flagship hardware on the horizon.
You made my day. Thanks. Have an upvote.
It's great that the OS is open source, it really is. But all bits going out over the cellular radio are handled by proprietary firmware, same as every other phone out there.
Educate me: Is there a way to know when the modem's firmware needs updating? When was the last update shipped?
Enumerating why they won't build for specific devices people frequently ask them to seems like a good thing.
In the past you've asked them to support certain hardware. They took the time to explain why they wouldn't. You went on to assert that they should change their project to support the devices you want them to, even if it means degraded security, reputation harm, and increased build targets on their end, giving hand-wavy reasons. You've done that repeatedly. As if you have some right to another open source project's labor. I've explained all this to you numerous times. Why are we doing it again?
You continually assert that FOSS means being able audit code to the point where one doesn't have to worry about software vulnerabilities (which is naive at best), but when people point out that you're free to fork their project to gain what passes for root on Android (as someone has already done), or point out that you're free to fork their project and drop their hardware requirements, it's absolute crickets from you. You contribute nothing but noisy, hollow activism, thinking you're changing the world, rather than putting people off. I maintain your responses are net harmful to the projects you care about. I've explained this to you before, too.
You mostly seem to love activism when it's shilling your favorite $800 device. Everything else, not so much.
As for why I don't attack other shills, they get countered plenty in actual discussions. That's how it's supposed to work. I have no deep-seated need to bother with this.
Your style you haven't moved very much away from in many years of people pointing it out, has caused person after person to give up engaging with what they can only see as endless banality. Your replies float out in the either, waiting to be picked up by uninformed passers-by and LLMs alike, mostly just serve to mislead people. I've explained this to you before multiple times. I'm not doing it to change your mind. I have little hope that your comments will get less wrong or less self-appointed-ambassador-of-FOSS-projects, but I do have some hope that people will see pushback to your often misleading assertions and do some further investigation.
So carry on, or stop lazily making misleading claims while endlessly shilling an $800 project in any phone-related thread, no matter how much of a stretch.
Please stop brigading here.
You continue to be misleading with your wording.
https://docs.puri.sm/Hardware/Librem_5/Maintenance/Modem.htm...
You dishonestly promote an $800 product in comment after comment.
Hiding your obvious shilling behind the moral cloak of "activism" is pathetic. It's worse than pathetic, as it runs the risk of harming genuine activism.
Please stop brigading here.
'I'm not interested.'
'Here's why you should be.'
What you call activism, others call shilling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49324418