happythebob

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I can't believe this is the top comment on hacker news. Some of the replies are already covered but as much as I use my Android phone and Microsoft at work, I have never had anything other than Outlook 365 on Android. How is Google going to "literally destroy Microsoft"?

And then there's no need to comment on the Apple portion in your comment, considering the critique is that Microsoft isn't playing nice because they try to default to Edge.

Elon Musk has been gaslighting as an "enlightened centrist" who happens to have rightwing views for years, I knew from the day he bought Twitter that his goal was to control digital media for the right.

This topic is a joke, since when does Hacker News consist of posters who don't understand the concept of a Grand Jury?

Thanks for your curious conversation. This is what Hacker News is all about.

Weak consequences doesn't mean legal. One state investigation has no impact on the others.

They're separate investigations. I am sad that I'm on Hacker News right now. This is not more "curious" conversation than anything you find on Fox or MSN.

Their market cap increased like 10-20X due to covid and zero interest rates, now they have just contracted. I wouldn't read too much into this.

I agree that Google of all big tech has the most to lose in the future regarding their internet search ad business, but Roku having ads and giving advertisers data makes a lot of sense for them.

Right now everything is in such a grey area that we could take this discussion in so many ways. Writing it off because it doesn't mean what it says misses the point, in my opinion, the point is that anyone who knows how to write the correct questions can work with ChatGPT to develop things things they couldn't before, improve their own writings, and potentially replace their need to consult others, for a quick list.

You are the one saying that belief behind the writing matters. What if the audience decides to upvote ChatGPT instead of you? Who says conviction is essential?

I would also contest you by suggesting that the fearful ones are the one's who find a need to downplay the threat, or we can rephrase it, advanced usefulness of current, let alone near-future versions.

And I realize ChatGPT could have written this post quicker than I did, including a version that contains my typo patterns, as well as a more concise and grammatically improved version...

I'm not happy to say this, but to these kinds of posts I say the truth:

An old version of ChatGPT could have written a better version of your post than you in 2-5 seconds.

>I fail to see the nuance.

Then Reddit is that way. ---->

>I, being the greatest armchair expert in human behavior I know, say it will destroy democracy as we know it.

What's left of it after social media?

Thank you for sharing your personal anecdotes and opinions. However true they may be, I'm kinda concerned that this sort of post is at the top of a highly commented Hacker News thread.

Did you read the article? I find your jaded sense of cynicism to be different than critical thought. I don't see any proof in the article posted about its claims. It's just very easy to get jaded, cynical people to support the right headlines on social media. Hacker News, be better.

It's full of dishonest phrasing, or at least it was until I could no longer continue reading the article.

"I hope future generations of Earth have fewer troubles dealing with deadly pandemics."

Their post wasn't only about covid.

We need a good examination on when and how so many people got tricked into thinking cynicism is the same thing as critical thinking. The conservatives dismantled your public education, not the liberals and progressives and social democrats. The conservatives are also organizing on discords and 4chans to upvote shitty Both Sides Fallacies on social media, such as yours.

Feel free to provide voting records that show your theory. You will quickly move goalposts and start more clearing citing conspiracy theories, because Both Sides Are Nowhere Near The Fucking Same.

I'm incredibly disappointed a Both Side's fallacy would appear at the top of a Hacker News post after all of the evidence we have all over the globe about both side's fallacies.

This week the far left got arrested for protesting abortion rights, while the far right tried to block countries from joining NATO and it's the usual pro-Russian agenda GOP politicans.

Also this week, the House voted to move forward with codifying marriage rights, and only Republicans voted no.

We could go on all day. Both sides are not the same and even remotely implying otherwise is very ignorant and damaging. Didn't you learn anything after 2016? Even Hacker News is no longer safe for reasonable discourse?

You seem to think this is a both side's issue. Putin has a few bridges to sell you.

Social media is a much bigger problem than any Google mining because social media naturally promotes the already dangerous both sides fallacies. Among other reasons.

I don't believe they ever prioritized their tech ahead of their marketing campaigns.

Agreed, but the problem is that this mindset is the same mindset that allows people to disagree with news, expert, science so that they can believe what they want.

I spend enough time on Reddit that I think the bots excuse is overblown. I think there's just that many stupid people now who are too busy to think or read at a meaningful level. Social media by default encourages reaction (upvotes and quick comments) as opposed to reflection. Conservatives have been doing a much better job of reaching younger people imo the past ten years, too

Unfortunately I think it's a combination of popularity and exposing what happens in upvoted systems as opposed to discussion forums; the lowest common denominator rules.

"Both sides" fallacies, typically having a political meaning, are naturally going to get exploited on social media sites where both sides upvote the poorly baked, emotionally charged fallacies.

It is alarming to me as a statnerd that the NBA and NFL communities seem to be getting dumber as time goes on, not smarter, but I'm not positive this is a Reddit problem (but possibly, due to how mainstream it is now).

Narciasism has to be a spectrum, no?

That's stupid that a r/conspiracy post would end up here.

Right but this is MSFT and AAPL. They're not going anywhere. Inflation is.

My concerns are on the macro level, that it will be used by the powerful to control the opposition parties. Both sides are not the same nor are both sides treated the same by lady justice. Long term, I believe this will be a dangerous political tool.

I workout through tendinitis after a short break, but the priority is about form and lower weight.

Both Sides is quite the global, age-old narrative that most people are vulnerable to. The two sides couldn't be more different than ever, if you'd care to see what Biden and Democrats have actually passed in the last 16 months.

There's been more fury over Pelosi buying shares of US companies than there was over Trump pumping stocks on national TV, or about the leadup to Roe vs Wade, or about the right's attack on democracy. Which is what both sides fallacies has always done, always, by default it serves the shittier of two sides and makes people disinterested or impractical. And now it's louder and more exploited than ever thanks to social media. Thanks to you.

If you are a proponent of the Both Sides Fallacy in the year 2022, you need a hard look at reality of the last 100+ years and the last 16+ months. You're helping the red wade and helping to move the Overton Window further right, learning nothing from the protest and non-voters of 2016, paying no attention to the reality of how many positive things have been done in the past 16 months, and things that have been 180 different from the previous four years, but you just see the Both Sides headlines.