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manigandham was a fairly active HN user.

Am I the only one who’s annoyed that the message is gated and that FB somehow needs to track everyone who has seen what I imagine amounts to a mea culpa for their clusterfuck of a week.

It’s so weird reading about Web3 and the focus presumably on digital sovereignty and privacy and to see a platform moving backwards and away from any semblance of an open internet.

Really surprised to hear that you’re not getting the relevance out of Google. Are most of your searches in a specific domain that’s somehow not covered properly by Google? And is there a search engine that does a better job for you? I’ve tried using services like DDG and find myself falling back to Google more often than not.

I actually wrote a deep dive on Apple’s pivot to privacy. https://saturation.substack.com/p/apple-facebook-and-the-glo...

My company actually did a very extensive study on this and found that the majority of websites utilize dark patterns. Only 25% of sites are even legally compliant even after deploying consent management software. Companies are openly flouting privacy laws and we actually found some of the worst offenders in the app space where consent mechanisms don't even exist within the apps themselves.

If you think influencer marketing and product placement are already at capacity you have no idea how much worse it's about to get if ad blocking gets much worse. And the irony is that, by design, you won't know a good chunk of the time and other times it'll just merely be implied without being explicitly stated. Continued use of social networks, including this one, collects way more identifiable data than what the non-Google/FB/Amazon ad market collects. Ad blockers have had near 0 impact on FB's operations. Google and others have paid to ensure that their search ads still make it through most ad blockers.

Blocking ads does not drive businesses to be more "honest". They'll just spend more on PR and influencers. And given how hostile this community is to ads and perhaps even marketing overall, (how YC ever backed a marketing or ad startup is beyond me), companies already realize that getting a fawning TC article purchased thru connections and favors and PR chicanery is going to be more effective than ad campaign even though the ad campaign is more honest, upfront and transparent with its agenda.

There definitely is an either/or because blocking of one channel will naturally necessitate money/barter flowing to the other channel. One is at least transparent and regulated, the murky world of influence peddling isn't since it's hard for anyone to tell in the moment whether something is "organic" or not.

I'll be the first to admit that the existing advertising ecosystem is broken, primarily due to misaligned incentives across the board. But, given a choice, would you rather have a clearly labeled thing that you know is an ad transparently trying to influence you or a sneaky human billboard, err "influencer" coming up to you with an agenda along with tons of product placement in whatever you watch/read/listen to?

The foundational work he did was definitely impressive. But the fact that it fell to one guy also spoke to how low the stakes were at the time.

The IANA was responsible for assigning IP addresses back then. It was basically one dude, Jon Postel( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Postel ), until it was formalized as an organization in 1988.

I highly doubt that most of the investors in ICOs are all that interested in the core business. They're interested in an arbitrary security loosely linked to the core business appreciating that is referred to as a token because calling it an asset/security would require more regulation.

You just need a whitepaper. And a whole lot of blockchain "experts". Because what makes a biz work is not the soundness of its ideas but the fact that it has its own coin.

The IAB (digital ad trade group) is proposing a new standard called LEAN in response to ad blockers. These ads are supposed to be non-invasive. The public comment period has been extended to Dec 22. This is the public's chance to shape the standard before you start seeing these EVERYWHERE.

Send your thoughts to newadportfolio@iab.com

Full guidance is here: http://www.iab.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IABNewAdPortfo...

A partial list of proposed ads:

1. Flexible ad sizes - https://www.iab.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/new-ad-portfo... Replaces fixed pixel banners

2. Vertical video - https://youtu.be/ODIqEGJmWjw?t=13m31s NOT user-initiated

3. 360 images - https://youtu.be/OgdGkAxzZaY User-initiated

4. Outstream video - https://vimeo.com/193523156 NOT user-initiated Will autoplay on all wi-fi connections

5. Interstitials - https://youtu.be/ODIqEGJmWjw?t=32m13s NOT user-initiated

6. Mobile adhesion banners - https://www.iab.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/new-ad-portfo... These stick to the bottom of the screen as you scroll

Under consideration but implicitly endorsed

7. Scrollers - https://youtu.be/A-jTMJMh4sU