-2 karma · joined June 4, 2023
Its reasonable to expect a research mathematician to output 0-1 result a year, packing 1 box a year at "big shipping co" is not "reasonable".
You reframed my entire argument about low skilled / measurable "output" jobs back into the "creative" realm, which i've said isn't as easy to measure.
You literally said "output" the most speculative / vague definition of "work" available.
I appreciate programmers / "creatives" "output" is much harder to measure, but there are alot of jobs where "mouse moving", "words per second" is a very reliable indicator of "output".
A percentage > 90% of the world isn't programmers...
There simply isn't the same workflow to monitor "word" / "pdf" documents without an insane amount of effort / document control that most SMB's dont have.
The only option available to them, without hiring programmers, is often only the metrics that get offered built into these types of products.
I dont think that's a strawman argument.
Law firms would love every case to be solved in 2 hours if they still got the same $ value from a case that dragged on for 6 months.
What about jobs that aren't creative like coding or graphic design?
Some jobs are simply "sit in your chair and do work". The productivity metrics aren't speculative - they are measurable.
You may argue "these are jobs for AI" - but realistically alot of jobs are a way off from this.
Why shouldn't the "productivity" of these staff be measured? Because you don't like it?
If you work at "big shipping co" and "box" 1 item a day and your colleagues do 100, should you not be fired?
GPT models are at least 5/10 years out from critiquing the choices those "very smart" people make.
Even when they do, we'll need to critique their critiques - I wouldn't worry about learning any language now :)
It may be like that on modern captcha mechanisms, but that was not how we got here (I.E "The vast majority of computer vision training images come from self-driving cars’ cameras").
Are you to young to remember when captcha's were based on Googles/others scans of books?
For like 10+ years the baseline was "handwritten" digits / "book text" and how well models could identify them...
Google spent millions on fighting lawsuits over this... I think you must be young (not that im insulting you, just that im showing my age and im < 30)