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The community claims that this code is now covered by GPL.
We await a response from GL.iNet.
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I was merely citing use of Cloudflare as evidentiary, not determinative.
I am not so sure about the relevance of billing entity. I suspect that how Cloudflare chooses to bill is as much driven by tax (especially transfer pricing) as anything else. I also think there are as-yet-unanswered questions about the role of CDNs and similar “global” infrastructure providers, and the impact of using their services as subcontractors (cf intermediaries), in interpreting jurisdiction. These services are obviously different to the “traditional” autonomous systems (routed networks). I am not sure that the law has caught up with this yet. But that is a tangent.
Thanks for the thoughtful debate.
I am no fan of the OSA but this spat is also not showing 4chan or its fan-base to be particularly mature or legally savvy (quelle surprise).
Whether one agrees with the policy aims of the OSA or not, there are some complex jurisdictional and enforceability issues at play here. Unfortunately it’s not as simple as you make out.
My point is about UX: it could be much slicker if the browser industry standardised the consent mechanism.
You make a good point about lack of incentives.
It’s not possible to rely on browser controls as-is, because they do not differentiate between necessary and optional cookies.
Browser vendors could agree standards and implement them, exposing these to users and advertisers in a friendly way.
But they haven’t shown any interest in doing this.
I wonder why?
Data rights enforcement is nascent/emerging but certainly a space to watch.
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It doesn’t mean that they are not helpful. Just that - as warrant canaries go - they are not complete.
IAAL and advise on data protection and privacy.
Anecdotally I can tell you that the MitM aspect of Cloudflare and other similar providers is not well understood.
My impression is that a lot of people use these services without really understanding the implications.
For example, when you look at some of the risks that privacy laws are trying to protect against, especially access to data by foreign actors (including government agencies) without due process, use of these types of services changes the game.
Sometimes the benefits might outweigh the risks, but the decision to use these types of services should not be taken trivially.
That said, I routinely use Cloudflare for my personal projects.