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"Recommending to IA that they delete it was a mistake. Our problem was that the 5M book images were drowning out the rest of the Commons members. So, we are restoring the account, moving it out of the Commons, and placing the book images under CC0, with IA’s permission and support"
"To be clear, Flickr didn't delete this. Our friends at the Internet Archive did. It's their account. I don't know all the details, but I believe we've been collaborating with IA on ways to improve the Commons, and I think removing the Books account was part of that effort." https://twitter.com/DonMacAskill/status/1511018079802720256
Clearly there's some misunderstanding/communication.
"The @internetarchive did not ask to take these off of Flickr's site. We do not have any power of them-- it is up to them.
The Images are still in the books that are hosted on https://t.co/NHtWm9GEQu
But I understand Flickr is interested in putting them back up."
https://twitter.com/DonMacAskill/status/1511018079802720256
"To be clear, Flickr didn't delete this. Our friends at the Internet Archive did. It's their account. I don't know all the details, but I believe we've been collaborating with IA on ways to improve the Commons, and I think removing the Books account was part of that effort."
What's been lost is the efforts of all the users to separate the interesting images from the chaff.. and organise them into collections. For such a large corpus that's a really valuable thing.
Also links people had to those images are just dead.
And all the images users had previously favourited have just disappeared from their collections.
1. All the lost metadata. By making the images available on Flickr users were unearthing the interesting images from the 5 million plus collection and creating all sorts of valuable metadata.
2. There is no way to explore the images as they are stored on IA. At a certain point if the data can't be explored it may as well not be available.
A partnership like this makes quite a bit of sense.
https://www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157720510495566/#r...
"The Internet Archive Book Images recently deleted their Flickr account. >Flickr and Internet Archive were in agreement on this< because:"
https://www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157720510495566/#r...
"Hey, all. We're sorry for what seems like a sudden removal of the Internet Archive account. This decision came after weeks of conversation and coordination with the Internet Archive."
Edit: To clarify, the internet archive did not consult or warn the users of the collection.
There's currently an open letter to IA and Flickr for people to sign to try and call on them to find a better resolution:
https://openletter.earth/open-letter-to-flickr-and-internet-...
It was probably one of my favourite things on the internet, no hyperbole. You could search for words and you would get all sorts of strange illustrations/block prints/photos that may or may not have something to do with the term. The fact that the illustrations were taken out of context made them even more fascinating and mysterious.
And now it's gone..
All the time people had spent delving the depths of the archive of 5+ million images and curating the most interesting images, just gone?
I really really hope that some backup of the metadata was done before the delete button was pushed.. but I fear the worst. From the sounds of it the account was voluntarily deleted by IA. I find it hard to believe that they of all people would just nuke that information?
What makes it all the more painful is I'd actually done a full scrape of all the metadata that Flickr makes available through its API, but I can't seem to find the data from the scrape that I did that included the all important view counts..
http://web.archive.org/web/20220308103246/https://www.flickr...
Does anyone have an approach they'd recommend? Cloundflare perhaps?
All my media is served by cloudinary, so it should be easy to have the site served in more than one place and have the only single point of failure be the DNS server.
Does anyone have any experience with it? I like the pessimistic execution concept..
I also think, speaking from personal experience, our minds have an amazing ability to avoid thinking about things that are difficult or unpleasant. This can mean that we neglect to do things we should be doing (or do the things that cause us harm) not because those things are infact actually okay behaviours, but because we're not even thinking properly about the consequences. We're just doing.
The fact that lastpass support says that it means that the correct password was used doesn't mean it's true, the support staff might just be mistaken.
The problem with trying to make something that uses electronics is the number of squares on the board making it quite a big fiddly task.
I was so surprised when I saw shapes in the viewfinder that didn't look organic. There were squares and pyramids, it looked like Aztec ruins. And they were growing before my eyes! I then realised it was the reagents crystallising in the heat of the lamp.
The world of microscopes is like magic, it's a shame that more people aren't exposed to it.
Even just a quality 10x hand lens opens up a whole world of detail that we don't usually see.