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joken0x

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In pursuit of knowledge and interesting ideas.

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joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
It's a good point. It's a total control of the word, in addition to being limited to only consuming, we cannot comment on our opinion or refute the lie.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
Simulations on simulations. How to distinguish the real?
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
The concept of simulation is very interesting, Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation and other related theories will gain more strength and meaning.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
Hahaha we could all be bots here. Bip bip.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
Goopt is an experiment in what the "procedural web" could be. This new web will use procedural content generation to create varied content, completely synthetic, since these are generated by algorithms and artificial intelligence. For now, the content is only text that is being generated automatically with GPT-3, the recent OpenAI model. Goopt works as if it were a search engine, allowing us to search for any term, obtain related results and access their content. Simulating in this way the experience of browsing the web.

I started working on this because I think the idea of the procedural web is interesting, I think this technology will come in the future maybe not too far away, so we have to start thinking about the possibilities, problems, dilemmas, paradoxes. Well, I think this is a big change, which has a direct impact on the information we consume and how we do it, the online experience, it could even shape our behavior as it is our information, reference, entertainment system, etc. We must be ready for a change of this size, so I invite you to give life to this topic and put it up for discussion.

What is Procedural Web?

This is a term that has not yet been treated as such, so I have tried to give my vision on the matter. The procedural web will be the future of the web. It will offer us infinite content, since it will not be necessary that someone has written or created it before. All the content will be synthetic and generated at the moment, with infinite possibilities. From informative text, articles, images, videos, to games, applications and services with interfaces and functionality that are automatically generated. All this adapted to our queries and needs, and increasingly personalized to our preferences.

Web 4.0 could be the propitious evolution for the procedural web. The automation that this new version of the web poses about applications, services, interfaces, APIs, devices and others, could be exploited by connecting them with the procedural web. These reality data interfaces would help empower and enhance their generative capabilities, as well as connect their functionality to the real world, having services and devices on which to execute actions. This makes the procedural web even more interesting, because it endows it with cybernetic capabilities.

The procedural web is based on natural language processing (NLP) and procedural content generation (PCG). Advances in these fields, as well as in the field of computational creativity, will allow us to generate increasingly better synthetic multimedia, thus nurturing the procedural web with more and better content. It will be interesting to see if this content comes to satisfy us more than the traditional web and human creation. Maybe one day we won't ever be able to distinguish.

Demo video and usage guide in the GitHub repository:

https://github.com/jokenox/Goopt

joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
Maybe giving more examples can give a better result, for the case of GPT-3 I kept it to a few examples because of the cost of the amount of tokens.

Another option is to improve formatResults to fix more cases of invalid JSON responses. If you get any improvement a pull request is welcome.

joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
Man, how crazy. Continuing like this, they could create their own identification keys for machines and despise us. It seems that in this whole game only they end up winning.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
That's right, the human creation is and will become more and more a very precious treasure.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
It seems to be a loop of information from which there is no way out, that devours the information and stirs it among piles of garbage that it generates without stopping. Labyrinth and crypt at the same time, growing and churning more all the time. I think we have to start a serious effort to collect and save the human creation, otherwise it will become a hidden treasure buried among layers of artificial garbage. Imagine, if it can be difficult for us to distinguish the human content from the synthetic, how will it be for future generations who will not even have the living context of our time? And who will already be more accustomed to these synthetic contents than to the properly human ones.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
AI fighting against AI, everything will be AI.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
Thanks man! It's a good idea, maybe a similar filter or curator will be needed for the procedural web, but for the dark part of the AI; disinformation, meaningless content, etc.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
I would like to put it live, although it would be necessary to review the terms to launch it live.

If you can make any adjustments that respect the terms, contact me to see it together.

joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
* Can you mix procedural and static content? Just the idea of the wiki is interesting here. Perhaps there could be a wiki that stores content in a static way, that is edited by users putting the best content they find on the procedural web. It would be a valuable place to find good ideas or ideas that we might not have thought of but someone else did. This could also serve as feedback for AI models. Although it is also true that we would not be able to distinguish if non-human opinions start to creep in and end up contaminating the site.

* How can you verify accuracy of information? I think this is one of the main difficulties, as the AI would have to understand contexts and have a notion of truth, I think this would already start to touch the capacity of "consciousness".

* What if you could refine a web page’s content just-in-time? You will be able to do this for every part that you don't like enough and want something better, or just to see something different.

joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
It is something that is still not clear to me, I see the difficulty of the task but also the rapid evolution of AI models. Maybe it will surprise us in not too long.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
You get it, man, that is exactly the question. It is time to think about the many possibilities, problems, dilemmas, paradoxes, etc. It is very interesting and disturbing at the same time.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
Exactly, it is inevitable, the traditional web will be diluted with the same garbage.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
I think that as long as you don't put a live version (where you don't require your own API Key) and you don't misuse the results, there shouldn't be a problem.

Even so, it is a good idea to adjust, I'll keep an eye on your fork. Thanks!

joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
Very good reference. It is a problem that will remain.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
Yes, I think the same. Search engines try to match what exists (finitely, so it will always be a limitation) of previously created content with our query or need to know, while AI can generate and adjust the answer to what we need or want to know, even for our purpose, intellectual level, etc. Basically, tailored responses.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
I think there will come a point when the traditional internet will also become diluted in artificiality, content from the procedural web will start to creep into the traditional web, and we won't be able to distinguish. It's interesting to think of it in terms of Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation.
joken0x··on Show HN: Goopt – Search Engine for a Procedural Simulation of the Web with GPT-3
Exactly, content no longer revolves around monetization.