jonobacon

Nope. This is real.

Or, a blog post sharing one guy's opinion.

Did you actually read the post? I am not suggesting anyone builds anything new, instead that we are realistic in how much work is involved and distributions consolidate around something that already exists.

> Shiny GUI toolkits that are a huge pain to develop for, and non-free software gos against what the people who use GNU/Linux now want.

This is a yuuuge generalization. There are many Linux folks who want a slick consumer experience and there are many that want ratpoison and vim. :-)

This idea doesn't take away from the requirements that people have for a non-consumer desktop.

I wasn't asked to promote anything. I got a new toy and I wanted to share me using it.

You may think this is advertising, but you are wrong.

I absolutely promise it won't. I want him to be curious and I want him to be silly.

Amazing Iron Maiden album.

Thanks!

I say it like this: "hshffhshshdhdhdhshs", but then again, I do have an English accent.

You must be fun at parties.

Feel free to email ian.greenleigh@data.world and he will look into it.

Thanks!

I will check in with them to see what is happening here.

You are not kidding about the long flight. I wish someone could move Australia a little closer to California. :-)

Hope to see you at linux.conf.au next year, chris_wot! :-)

My apologies for the lack of public responsiveness. Thanks, chris_wot, for jumpstarting the discussion.

As outlined in Brandon's post linked here, we have been taking some time to really delve into the core of these issues and explore what the best solutions are. This has involved some internal discussion as well as reaching out to various parts of our community to gather feedback and perspectives. We take these concerns really seriously and want to ensure we can explore the best long and short-term solutions. As you can probably understand, we want to have some of our ducks in a row before sharing some next steps.

Rest assured that even though there has not been much publicly shared yet, we are definitely exploring ways to address these issues.

You are far too kind. Thanks!

My main goal in responding was to acknowledge the issues. This is just the start of the process, and by no means the end.

The next step, as you mention, is to bring the right people in. This is why I want to ensure this is raised with our teams inside GitHub to explore ways to rectify some of these concerns.

Oops: I posted too quickly. Updated.

Hi Adam, Addy, Andreas, Ariya, Forbes, James, Henry, John-David, Juriy , Ken, Nicholas, Pascal, Sam, Sindre,

My name is Jono and I started as Director of Community back in November at GitHub. Obviously I am pretty new at GitHub, but I thought I would weigh in.

Firstly, thanks for your feedback. I think it is essential that GitHub always has a good sense of not just what works well for our users, but also where the pain points are. Constructive criticism is an important of doing great work. I appreciate how specific and detailed you were in your feedback. Getting a good sense of specific problems provides a more fruitful beginning to a conversation than "it suxx0rs", so I appreciate that.

I am still figuring out how GitHub fits together as an organization but I am happy to take a look into these issues and ensure they are considered in how future work is planned. We have a growing product team at GitHub that I know is passionate about solving the major pain points that rub up against our users. Obviously I can't make any firm commitments as I am not on the product team, but I can ensure the right eyeballs are on this. I also want to explore with my colleagues how we can be a little clearer about future feature and development plans to see if we can reduce some ambiguity.

As I say, I am pretty new, so I am still getting the lay of the land, but feel free to reach out to me personally if you have any further questions or concerns about this or any other issue. I am at jono@github.com.

Loving it. :-)